Everitt

[Mofra]

Re: Everitt

Seems to be a real lack of hardness and an acceptance of mediocrity that is making me ANGRY!

Given your repsonses so far I guess the site has some acceptance of mediocrity, thankfully I doubt the club itself does. Interesting you want more hardness, when Addision is perhaps the hardest player in the team.

3. Everitt - I would really like a good explanation regarding why he left out of the team. I don't want any poopy one liner, I want a perfect reasoned and detailed response.

Despite the fact that your childish behaviour barely warrants it, here goes:

Everitt hasn't nailed down a spot, simple enough. He seems to lack the burst of speed to own a forward post, lacks the body on body pressure for a backman, is not quite quick enough to play on a wing and is too short for the ruck. His disposal for mine is excellent and I think he can fill a number of roles in the side as a spare parts man, but he needs to find a spot and nail it down.

Worth noting he wasn't named in the bests at Willy yesterday whioch in some repsoects vindicates the view of the match committee.

[The Underdog]

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I think there's a bit of the 20 game rule going on here (OK, technically he's played more than 20 games) - everyone's a superstar until they prove otherwise.

Everitt has been OK this year when he's played in the seniors, and had a good game v Box Hill two weeks ago at Willi, but I doubt he's going to win the Liston Medal.

I think he would be better value than Stack, Addison, Eagleton or Hahn and should be in the side, but let's not kid ourselves here, he's no Chris Grant.

Stack's on record pace then, he's not even hit 10 games and he's already a dud
While Everitt may not be in the Liston race, it looks like he may get a few more chances to get votes. Like most I'd like to see him in but it's clear the MC are still "dancing with the girl you came with" even though at this point she's starting to eye off someone else. It'll be interesting when Johnson, Ward and Akermanis are fit, which player's come under scrutiny.

[KT31]

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Given your repsonses so far I guess the site has some acceptance of mediocrity, thankfully I doubt the club itself does. Interesting you want more hardness, when Addision is perhaps the hardest player in the team.
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Would suggest even Addison would balk at getting in Bazza's way.

[Bumper Bulldogs]

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Well back to the task at hand, If Tommy cant get up for this weeks game against the Eagles, Everitt would have to find himself a chance, Shaggy missing and Wood playing.

If the MC don't play him he has to ask has he really done enough to warrant a spot and if so why is he not in.

Don't get me wrong I think he could really add value to our list in so many ways but look at him and say "well he was put up for trade" last year with little interest and the dogs offered a life line.

How do I repay that back?

Would we all be comfortable with him playing this week on McKinly, MaCrae, Lynch?

My best 22 wouldn't include Everitt but he would be in the next pack of 5 to 6. It's all up to him to change this as 3 years ago he was in the best 22 and he seems to have stayed stagnate while Ward, Hill, Picken, Williams have all come on.

[stefoid]

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Im not a Willi watcher, but by all accounts Grant has done more for the dogs than he did for the gulls. I thought Everitt looked lively enough when promoted as well. some players are just like that.

I think Skinnys problem is what other posters have already stated - where do play him? He could be average almost anywhere on the ground, but where will he be actually good?

[LostDoggy]

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Im not a Willi watcher, but by all accounts Grant has done more for the dogs than he did for the gulls. I thought Everitt looked lively enough when promoted as well. some players are just like that.

I think Skinnys problem is what other posters have already stated - where do play him? He could be average almost anywhere on the ground, but where will he be actually good?

Agree, seems that Everitt is one of those types who is better at AFL level than VFL if you know what I mean?

He just needs game time. If they can persist with Stack then they can do it with Everitt.
He has a massive upside and want to see him nail down a firm spot coming into the finals.

[Missing Dog]

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Agree, seems that Everitt is one of those types who is better at AFL level than VFL if you know what I mean?

He just needs game time. If they can persist with Stack then they can do it with Everitt.
He has a massive upside and want to see him nail down a firm spot coming into the finals.

I agree with your sentiment, using Stack as an example clearly the match committee believe he offers the side a skill set in genuine pace that few on the list can rival him for therefore they have chosen to persist with him due to that exact reason.

The biggest problem the match committee seem to be suffering from is identifying Everitt's skill set and what sets him apart from his competition. Unfortunately for Everitt's sake they do not appear to know how to best utilise him, he has a lot more competition for spots and doesn't have any specific skills that set him apart from the competition in their eyes.

I hope he can nail the half forward role they appear to have thrown him through Williamstown and ultimately earn a recall.

[LostDoggy]

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I believe we are missing a Milne type player in our side. We seem to have a number of players who fumble or are less able below the knees. The result is that we can lose the ball to the opposition in our forward half or we aren't able to get possession on the ground and kick freak goals. Our burst players are few. Sides with burst players and those able to spring up off the deck in an instant have troubled us this year. I question, therefore, whether we can have all of Hill, Stack, Moles, Eagle and Everitt in the one side. Especially as we have Cross and Boyd who are excellent movers of the ball but are less able on the burst.

We can be very quick with movement of the ball, but equally we can be found out when we don't have the ball and made to look slow. If our defensive pressure is great it matters less, but too often this year we have just given the ball to the opposition or we have not had the legs or system to hem in burst players and quick movers of the ball in contested situations. It comes down to having all players in the forward half constantly running and blocking and smothering and being where they are supposed to be to ensure no free flow for the opposition. If they don't do this, they create a problem for the team.

I assume that Everitt, Stack and Hill have to learn to do these things better and more consistently if they are to be part of a finals' campaign.

[LostDoggy]

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COON DOG - you are a rare one telling me to have more respect after seeing some of your arrogant and denigrating posts in the past. Don't be a hypocrite! I suspect that you only criticised me because you disagree that Addison and Stack are duds. And along followed your sycophants.


Seems to be a real lack of hardness and an acceptance of mediocrity that is making me ANGRY!

JC

Love your passion and some of the questions you are asking, they are all relevant and worth bringing to the forum.

However, I have to agree with TCD on this one mate. Players and officials regularly read this site and I'm sure they wouldn't have a problem with you putting across your views about player talent, however, referring to players as duds and the coach as a dumbass lacks class.
Given some of the pertinent issues you have raised I believe you are above name calling.

We are all hurting from our poor form at the moment butif you want your questions answered do it without getting personal and giving the players shit, it will go a long way to actually getting the info you want. In the past I have personally written to Rocket and he called me back that very day to discuss my views. If you are that concerned with his desicion making I would suggest you fire off an email to the club and speak to the people that matter. If they returned a phone call from a shmuck like me I'm sure they'll do the same for you!

Keep up the good work!

Stay passionate without getting personal, the board needs more of it

P.s.... I'm not a relative nor am I a fan of both players, i think they both have absolutely no place in our starting 22.

[Desipura]

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JC

Love your passion and some of the questions you are asking, they are all relevant and worth bringing to the forum.

However, I have to agree with TCD on this one mate. Players and officials regularly read this site and I'm sure they wouldn't have a problem with you putting across your views about player talent, however, referring to players as duds and the coach as a dumbass lacks class.
Given some of the pertinent issues you have raised I believe you are above name calling.

We are all hurting from our poor form at the moment butif you want your questions answered do it without getting personal and giving the players shit, it will go a long way to actually getting the info you want. In the past I have personally written to Rocket and he called me back that very day to discuss my views. If you are that concerned with his desicion making I would suggest you fire off an email to the club and speak to the people that matter. If they returned a phone call from a shmuck like me I'm sure they'll do the same for you!

Keep up the good work!

Stay passionate without getting personal, the board needs more of it

P.s.... I'm not a relative nor am I a fan of both players, i think they both have absolutely no place in our starting 22.

This is a quality response. Rather than shooting him down for his passion, I think you nailed it with the bolded part.

[boydogs]

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This is a quality response. Rather than shooting him down for his passion, I think you nailed it with the bolded part.

Agreed. Sign of a good forum when members are pulling people into line themselves in such an even handed way

[AndrewP6]

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Anyone who pulls on the tricolour in anger deserves respect. The lack of ability, perhaps application, means the player doesn't fulfil his own or supporters' hopes and expectations but he's achieved more than any of us here. I don't think Addison is up to it, delivery too poor, but you have to respect his approach. Stack lacks consistency, that may come as his body matures but he's capable of moments of magic.

Nevertheless, J Cumings' points deserve a response, from the better informed poster if not the club, I'm neither. I can understand why Podsiadly wasn't picked up by the club - he'd had a go and been found wanting, VFL level is well below AFL level and the club's long shots were better credentialed, McDougal springs to mind. Somebody at Geelong saw something our recruiters didn't. Some you win, some you lose. Hudson was overlooked by Peter Rhodes and his selectors, Rhodes lost his job.

Everitt fumbles under pressure. It's up to him to force Eade to select him. I suspect it's an attitude thing and perhaps he doesn't follow instructions. We supporters who criticise players don't know what they are instructed to do.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing. For every draftee who fails to make the grade, you can point to a number selected later who do. It's not only Footscray. Every other club looks foolish when you look at Lake's selection.

Agree with most of your post...my previous laughter was at James Cumings' wild potshots at any all persons associated with the non-recruitment of J-Pod and The People's Beard, along with the calls for heads to roll and please explains from all and sundry.

[Missing-Dog]

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COON DOG - you are a rare one telling me to have more respect after seeing some of your arrogant and denigrating posts in the past. Don't be a hypocrite! I suspect that you only criticised me because you disagree that Addison and Stack are duds. And along followed your sycophants.

Any relatives of players who post on this site are highly-likely to be biased in favour of their relative and not the team and therefore make posts that would promote their relative, and therefore influence other readers to this site. This is just human nature. They should make themselves known so that we can just ignore them.

Problem is that Eade seems to be totally unaccountable regarding his team selections and player placements. I don't live in Victoria (but I still hold multiple full memberships each with social club). Don't you have selection table meetings with selectors that supporters can attend. Are there not any courageous enough supporters who can attend and really get the answers out of the selectors. Can't somebody go there and bang the table!

Because we don't have reasons for Eade's actions and non-actions we are free to surmise anything we like.

Some simple questions:
1. If we had of drafted Podsiadly like many of the fans on this and other forums suggested 3 years ago would we have advanced more in the finals, maybe even have taken out a Grand Final or two. Drafted by Geelong right under our noses.

2. Will whoever is responsible for not drafting Podsiadly please resign, or provide a good reason why they shouldn't be sacked. Is anybody to be held accountable for this? I'd like a full account of the circumstances and the reasons why Geelong succeeded and we failed. Its a disgrace.

I don't know who was responsible for not drafting Ben Hudson after he was taken by Adelaide right under our noses, but they can give a please explain too.

Heads should roll, and what, there's nerry a whimper

3. Everitt - I would really like a good explanation regarding why he left out of the team. I don't want any poopy one liner, I want a perfect reasoned and detailed response.

There, a couple of questions to ask.

Seems to be a real lack of hardness and an acceptance of mediocrity that is making me ANGRY!

While Podsiadly is playing well at Geelong at the moment, would he be playing as well at any other of the 15 clubs in the AFL? I love the way he plays but I do think he is a perfect fit at Geelong and is complemented by their personnel. Let's face it, when you have Cam Mooney, Stevie J, Paul Chapman and others along side you in the forward 50 it does tend to stretch the opposition defence a little bit. He is playing their structure to perfection which allows him to swing on to his left foot every time. That's my defence on behalf of the club to your second point. With regard to your first point we now can not answer it and never will be able to, so lets move on.

[The Coon Dog]

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While Podsiadly is playing well at Geelong at the moment, would he be playing as well at any other of the 15 clubs in the AFL? I love the way he plays but I do think he is a perfect fit at Geelong and is complemented by their personnel. Let's face it, when you have Cam Mooney, Stevie J, Paul Chapman and others along side you in the forward 50 it does tend to stretch the opposition defence a little bit. He is playing their structure to perfection which allows him to swing on to his left foot every time. That's my defence on behalf of the club to your second point. With regard to your first point we now can not answer it and never will be able to, so lets move on.

Would Geelong have rookied Pods this season if the AFL hadn't changed the rules to allow for mature aged rookies?

How long has he been in the system? Let's say 10 years for the sake of the argument & during those 10 years, lets say there have been 70 picks in the draft each year. That's a lot of 'mistakes' by all 16 clubs.

[LostDog]

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if Pods was drafted by us, we would have put him in the emergencies every week then dropped him at the end of the year.
This is our style almost there almost there almost there, oh we missed out