Round 14 - WOOF Selection Table

[chef]

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In Ward and Williams
Out Stack and Eagleton

[hujsh]

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Four changes to a side that has won its past two matches by 10 goals?!? Owch.

Don't forget who against though. The two teams with the worst form in the league. This does not make up for poor performances against quality opposition as we should be winning by those margins against these teams.

[becmatty]

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Don't forget who against though. The two teams with the worst form in the league. This does not make up for poor performances against quality opposition as we should be winning by those margins against these teams.

This seems to be a non-statement. "We should be winning by those margins" is exactly what we achieved. so, if we are doing what we should be doing, why would you support four changes to the side??

[hujsh]

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This seems to be a non-statement. "We should be winning by those margins" is exactly what we achieved. so, if we are doing what we should be doing, why would you support four changes to the side??

We've achieved par for the course, not performed brilliantly. This does not save Hill, Stack, Hahn and Eagle after poor performances against good sides. So if Ward, Williams, Higgins Reid etc are fit and available then some average performances against poor sides by people who regularly let the club down in big games should not keep them out of the team.

[LostDoggy]

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In: Ward Williams
Out: Stack Hill

Higgins to come back through Williamstown.
Everitt - i want to have him back in, but i cant see whose place he would take.

[GVGjr]

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This seems to be a non-statement. "We should be winning by those margins" is exactly what we achieved. so, if we are doing what we should be doing, why would you support four changes to the side??

Because there is a view that further improvement in the side is still possible and bringing in some other options will support that.
Hargrave and Johnson did well so there is nothing to suggest that if we add some others like Ward that we won't improve a bit more.

[Bornadog]

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Because there is a view that further improvement in the side is still possible and bringing in some other options will support that.
Hargrave and Johnson did well so there is nothing to suggest that if we add some others like Ward that we won't improve a bit more.

For mine, Ward and Williams need to come in at some stage, followed by Higgins.

Some tough decisions to be made over the next few weeks.

[becmatty]

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Agreed that we can and will improve further. But calling for four changes is ridiculous and will not happen.

Ward and Higgins are in our best 18 on any given day and if fit will both be straight in. Hill and Stack will surely make way for them.

The MC will not consider more than two changes and so the next players in line (Everitt, Williams, Moles, Reid, Addison, Roughhead) will simply have to keep playing well and hope that an opportunity comes up for them.

[Bornadog]

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Still, my question stands though bornadog - What is your rationale in retaining Hill ahead of Eagleton? Surely on the past two perfomances, Hill cannon hold his place?

What did Eagleton do that was so wrong today? I thought he was very servicable.

I thought Hill was very poor today and for three quarters Eagle was as well. Eagle is a real front runner and came good in the last quarter, however, because we are now playing well I would rather punt on younger players such as Hill.

[hujsh]

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Agreed that we can and will improve further. But calling for four changes is ridiculous and will not happen.

Won't happen based on previous form but is far from ridiculous.

The MC will not consider more than two changes and so the next players in line (Everitt, Williams, Moles, Reid, Addison, Roughhead) will simply have to keep playing well and hope that an opportunity comes up for them.

Williams appears to be in the MC's best 22 as does Ward and Higgins so 3 changes is certainly not out of the question. I would also think Reid is ahead of Stack even if Stack is currently in the AFL team based on immediate need.

[Mofra]

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I would also think Reid is ahead of Stack even if Stack is currently in the AFL team based on immediate need.

They are completely different players though, so a forward would have to come in for Stack. Ward can play on the HF line at least, given his finishing skills.

[Rocco Jones]

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They are completely different players though, so a forward would have to come in for Stack. Ward can play on the HF line at least, given his finishing skills.

Why would a forward 'have' to come in for Stack?

For the Eagles game we replaced a midfielder and a defender with a forward and a defender. Aren't Moles and Johnson 'completely different players'?. Ward can be rotated through midfield freeing up players to spend more time forward.

[Mantis]

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Haha, yep, everyone on here seems to have it in for Eagleton, so I assumed you were another Bald Basher.

Still, my question stands though bornadog - What is your rationale in retaining Hill ahead of Eagleton? Surely on the past two perfomances, Hill cannon hold his place?

What did Eagleton do that was so wrong today? I thought he was very servicable.

Who are all these "Eagleton bashers" you talk of?

You keep accusing all & sundry of bashing him, but you never seem to be able to nail down the offenders.

Either pick the right people or zip it up.

[Rocco Jones]

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I think Williams has to come back against Hawthorn, along with Ward.

Hill & Stack to make way.

If Higgins is fit he plays. Eagleton to miss, but I wouldn't play Higgins unless he was 100%.

Pretty much what I was going to post.

My only concern is if Higgins doesn't come up we would be probably light on for forwards without Stack and Hill, so perhaps I would play one of them ahead of Eagle. Thing is there is no point playing an extra forward who offers you very little value just for the sake of playing a forward.

[boydogs]

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Agreed that we can and will improve further. But calling for four changes is ridiculous and will not happen.

4 changes is not a regular occurrence for us, but I think it could happen this week. We will have Ward, Reid, Higgins and Williams coming back from injury, so it would be arguably 4 players in our starting 18 coming back into the side, as opposed to shuffling the 19th-22nd players based on form, team balance and the opposition

Ward and Higgins are in our best 18 on any given day and if fit will both be straight in. Hill and Stack will surely make way for them.

Agreed on Ward & Higgins. I think Stack will go, he isn't contributing as much as we need him to, but I would keep Hill and drop Hahn

The MC will not consider more than two changes and so the next players in line (Everitt, Williams, Moles, Reid, Addison, Roughhead) will simply have to keep playing well and hope that an opportunity comes up for them.

Williams and Reid are returning from injury, so I think the equation is slightly different for them

My changes would be -

In: Ward, Reid, Higgins, Williams
Out: Stack, Hahn, Eagleton, Wood

Stack is simply not doing enough at this stage, his game doesn't seem to be developing being given an extended run in the AFL either which has been disappointing. Hopefully he can improve back at Williamstown, but he is too much of a liability at the moment in the senior side

Eagle was good today on a big ground against weak opposition, but his attacking weapons are not what they used to be and he will not be able to use them as much in a tighter game. He can well and truly go missing against sides with good defensive pressure, as his own defensive game is not great.

Hahn has struggled for a while, and I think with Johnno back and Lake able to be switched forward we don't need him structurally any longer, and his contribution aside from this has not been enough. The decline in his bullocking, chasing and tackling has been a big part of our forward line defensive pressure declining IMO.

Wood has done OK for a young bloke but he is probably the most expendable at the moment in defense for us to bring Williams back against Buddy