Round 21 Team

[Bornadog]

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I'm concerned. At this stage of the season you expect we would be trying to settle on the best line-up for the finals.

I'm still relatively upbeat about our chances going into September but if this ends up being the line-up for the match against Collingwood, we are going to be slaughtered. That forwardline will spend all day chasing the backsides of Pie defenders.

In my view our season turned around when Johnno, Aker and Hahn were out of the side injured/suspended. With the introduction of blokes like Grant and Wood, the move of Murphy to the backline, and the introduction of Roughead we looked so much quicker and vibrant. This week's selections are a significant step backwards IMO.

In fact we started winning when Johnno came back into the team.

The team chosen for the weekend is close to our best on paper except for maybe Higgins (in doubt due to illness), Roughead/Minson and maybe Everitt, depending on the opposition.

[becmatty]

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In fact we started winning when Johnno came back into the team.

The team chosen for the weekend is close to our best on paper except for maybe Higgins (in doubt due to illness), Roughead/Minson and maybe Everitt, depending on the opposition.

I agree totally bornadog.

I think the team looks very strong this week and aside from Higgins being out and the need to reintroduce a backup ruckman for round 22, I think this is the team to get the job done.

That being said, I think Jones will make way for Minson/Roughy next week.

[comrade]

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Best on paper means very little, particularly coming in to finals. I'd much prefer a team that was fit and raring to go, rather than trying to squeeze in players who were considered best 22 at the start of the year due to past deeds (and who have failed to perform throughout THIS year).

The proof will be in the pudding.

[Mofra]

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So if Everitt was to stay in where would he play?

Couldn't play in attack even without Hahn there.

Is there a suitable match up in defence?

Could he play on a wing? Probably not.

Everitt is a conundrum. He is a quality player, but what he offers the team is less than his total ability.

Lets be honest - as a backman, he'd be the 6th best on the ground if he played.
As a forward? Probably 6th best.
Midfielder? Outside of the top 6.
You could almost mount an argument as a back-up ruckman, but if you include Hudson, Roughy, Minson, Williams and Cordy, he's 193cm and lighter than Skipper - perhaps 6th best on our list.

His abilities as a player, and the value he adds to the team, aren't equal IMO.

[Ozza]

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I, like many of you, are mystified by the changes. I know there are likely 'late changes' to occur, and I know they are trying a few things perhaps before finals - but how Eagleton and Hahn could play is beyond me.

I'll admit I've been critical of Everitt at times - but I thought he was ok against Geelong all things considered - and replacing him with Hahn is a step backwards for everybody.

It seems Eagle is going to get another finals series to disappoint...after I was sure 2009 would be his last.

[comrade]

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It seems Eagle is going to get another finals series to disappoint...after I was sure 2009 would be his last.

What he served up last week against Geelong confirmed that we'll get another September full of Eagleton fail.

At least Hahn kicked up a couple of goals against Goddard last year (that's all I've got)

[Greystache]

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But with Hahn coming back where is Jones going to play? Our forwardline looks top heavy with Hall, Johnno, Jones, Hahn and Grant in the team.

This reminds me of last year with Welsh, a mature player who'd lost his athletism and wasn't capable of playing his primary role in the team, yet kept his spot in the 22 to play bits and pieces roles in defense and across the forward line who in the end had virtually no impact. I see Hahn doing the same thing.

[Greystache]

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did anyone see Mitchplay at Willi last weekend? If so how was he moving, did he look slow or has he benefitted from his rest?

I did, he was very good. He played CHF when Willi were kicking with the wind and then floated as a loose man in defence when they were kicking into it. He moved substantially better than he was earlier in the year but he's never going to be overly athletic.

I do know that he feels the best he has since the NAB cup and thinks he'll be much better than he was before his break.

[DOG GOD]

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Best on paper means very little, particularly coming in to finals. I'd much prefer a team that was fit and raring to go, rather than trying to squeeze in players who were considered best 22 at the start of the year due to past deeds (and who have failed to perform throughout THIS year).

The proof will be in the pudding.

Well said Comrade. I totally agree that this is the case.

[mjp]

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Eagleton's game was pathetic last week and for him to receive another game shows just how predictable we are.

Setting the Dr Dre thing to one side, Eagleton was our best player two weeks ago and I would have been pretty surprised if he was omitted.

[Sockeye Salmon]

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I did, he was very good. He played CHF when Willi were kicking with the wind and then floated as a loose man in defence when they were kicking into it. He moved substantially better than he was earlier in the year but he's never going to be overly athletic.

I do know that he feels the best he has since the NAB cup and thinks he'll be much better than he was before his break.

20 touches isn't a lot considering he was always around where the ball was, didn't have an opponent for half the game and we absolutely smashed them. It's not like he uses the ball like Luke Hodge.

[Greystache]

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20 touches isn't a lot considering he was always around where the ball was, didn't have an opponent for half the game and we absolutely smashed them. It's not like he uses the ball like Luke Hodge.

Stats are irrelevant, most overrated thing in modern football. The fact is he played very well. He kicked goals (2 according to sporting pulse although I'm 99% sure he actually kicked 3) had a hand in setting up several others, presented well up forward and then blocked space for the opposition forwards.

[stefoid]

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Everitt is a conundrum. He is a quality player, but what he offers the team is less than his total ability.

Lets be honest - as a backman, he'd be the 6th best on the ground if he played.
As a forward? Probably 6th best.
Midfielder? Outside of the top 6.
You could almost mount an argument as a back-up ruckman, but if you include Hudson, Roughy, Minson, Williams and Cordy, he's 193cm and lighter than Skipper - perhaps 6th best on our list.

His abilities as a player, and the value he adds to the team, aren't equal IMO.

At the moment, yeah, but he is improving. Hes 21yo and has a lot of talent. You dont trade guys like that unless you get a godfather offer.

[LostDoggy]

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What he served up last week against Geelong confirmed that we'll get another September full of Eagleton fail.

At least Hahn kicked up a couple of goals against Goddard last year (that's all I've got)

From memory Eagleton was just about BOG against the lions in the Semi last year - Not all fail in Sept- but when he goes missing he goes in a big way. Still agree he shouldn't be in the side - i guess he has been given 'another' final chance to redeem himself.

[Mantis]

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Setting the Dr Dre thing to one side, Eagleton was our best player two weeks ago and I would have been pretty surprised if he was omitted.

He justified his selection in Adelaide with a good game, but it should have been a horses for courses selection.

Last week was the atypical Eagle performance against a quality team and he shouldn't have been included again.