Ayce Cordy?

[GVGjr]

I read Sedat's comments about Cordy being a potential bolter for the 2011 season and thought it was time to put Ayce under the microscope.

He has been slowed by injury since his arrival but has been adding some muscle to his body and you would have to hope he can take a step forward in 2011.
He has surprisingly good agility for someone so tall. I've seen him scoop the ball off the ground on the run and also athletically leap for his marks.

My big question mark about him is what is his ideal playing position?
To me he will have to be able to float between forward and ruck duties especially with the new IC rules and how teams are more likely to go into games with just one ruckman with support by a part timer. Does this suit Cordy or not?

Can Cordy become someone who can hold his marks up forward, kick straight and then take his turn in the ruck?
The risk is that without him holding his marks and the ball on the ground he could become a liability up forward.

I think 2011 will mainly be another development one for Cordy and hopefully he might slip in for a game or two with the Bulldogs.
20 injury free and consistent games with Williamstown would be ideal base to build his career from and that would be my main aim for him.

How do you think Cordy will go in 2011?

[Sockeye Salmon]

Re: Ayce Cordy?

I spoke to Ayce a year ago and he want to be a ruckman first and foremost.

In his ideal world he would be playing like Dean Cox, a ruckman who gets good stats because he can outrun most of the others.

[Desipura]

Re: Ayce Cordy?

If Ayce can get close to 100kgs, I can see him getting a few senior games (form permitting).
He will have to be mindful that if he does increase his weight significantly that it does not affect his mobility. I have no doubt the club will be monitoring this.

I would like to think he could play as a 3rd tall with the ability to chase and tackle when the ball is on the ground as well as pinch hit in the ruck.
He does have some smarts about him so he could be a very good player if the stars allign.

[GVGjr]

Re: Ayce Cordy?

I spoke to Ayce a year ago and he want to be a ruckman first and foremost.

In his ideal world he would be playing like Dean Cox, a ruckman who gets good stats because he can outrun most of the others.

Do you think with the rule changes to the IC bench he might have to add to his skill set?
I think both he and Roughead need to be flexible enough to spend some time up forward without being a liability.

[Mantis]

Re: Ayce Cordy?

Has played about 5 games in 2 & 1/2 years. I would like him to at least string a season together before we can try and work out where he is best suited... because at the moment I would say he is most suited to the rehab room.

Agree that he has some 'scary' traits for a guy 6'8"... lets hope we get to see some of these next year.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Ayce Cordy?

Do you think with the rule changes to the IC bench he might have to add to his skill set?
I think both he and Roughead need to be flexible enough to spend some time up forward without being a liability.

Either one or both of these guy's need to step up to the plate and become goalkicking forwards/ruckman ala Paul Salmon, I think the talent is there for this to occur, time and confidence will tell, but it is hard to judge Cordy on his Willy games due to the run of injuries, however, Roughead has shown plenty of promise. Bring it on!

[LostDoggy]

Re: Ayce Cordy?

I just want him to play close to a full season at Willy. Not fussed if he doesn't make it to the Bulldogs side.

[GVGjr]

Re: Ayce Cordy?

I just want him to play close to a full season at Willy. Not fussed if he doesn't make it to the Bulldogs side.

I think that is very realistic. I assume you also mean playing as a forward and changing in the ruck?

[Bornadog]

Re: Ayce Cordy?

I think that is very realistic. I assume you also mean playing as a forward and changing in the ruck?

This is what he needs to learn to do.

In February 2012, Hudson will be 33 and Hall 35 and will need to be replaced. 2011 is a great opportunity for Minson, Roughead and Ayce to get ready for 2012.

[Sedat]

Re: Ayce Cordy?

I just want him to play close to a full season at Willy. Not fussed if he doesn't make it to the Bulldogs side.

Reckon that is selling him a little short. The big proviso is 'if', but if he has a cracking pre-season (like Grant did last year), then surely he will come into calculations for higher honours with his skill set, increased size/bulk, and the confidence in his body that a strong pre-season will bring. At the very least he should be asserting himself consistently at senior VFL level and keeping the pressure on the incumbents.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Ayce Cordy?

The reason I'm not fussed if he doesn't get into the Bulldogs, is that IMO it would be better for Ayce to have a full year in the 1 side with 1 defined role. The last thing he needs is to play a few games at Willy doing 1 thing, then spending a couple of games at the Dogs doing a different role.

[Sedat]

Re: Ayce Cordy?

The reason I'm not fussed if he doesn't get into the Bulldogs, is that IMO it would be better for Ayce to have a full year in the 1 side with 1 defined role. The last thing he needs is to play a few games at Willy doing 1 thing, then spending a couple of games at the Dogs doing a different role.

If he's not getting a game with the seniors but is knocking the door down with his performances at Willy, that's cool. But I don't want the expectations on him to be lowered purely because he has been injured in previous years. We cotton-wooled him very early in 2010 so that he would be ready to go for pre-season, so there's no reason to suggest he can't throw himself into his work over summer and get himself cherry ripe for the season proper.

[Cyberdoggie]

Re: Ayce Cordy?

Has played about 5 games in 2 & 1/2 years. I would like him to at least string a season together before we can try and work out where he is best suited... because at the moment I would say he is most suited to the rehab room.

Agree that he has some 'scary' traits for a guy 6'8"... lets hope we get to see some of these next year.

And it think before being a bulldog he was injured for a lot of the TAC cup year.

I think he'll eventually get the right weight, i believe he's managed to put more kilo's on but the last time I saw him (in a suit at a bulldog's final) he still looked lean. He doesn't quite have the natural frame that Roughead has, he's a bit more like Luke Darcy than Scott Wynd and that will slow his progress but as long as he can compete physically in the ruck, then i don't seem him having a problem with any rule changes or demands to play forward, as we know he can do that already.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Ayce Cordy?

The reason I'm not fussed if he doesn't get into the Bulldogs, is that IMO it would be better for Ayce to have a full year in the 1 side with 1 defined role. The last thing he needs is to play a few games at Willy doing 1 thing, then spending a couple of games at the Dogs doing a different role.

Assumes he can only learn one thing at a time and only over a long period. He should be constantly challenged to do different things to see how flexible and adaptive he can become (and I would expect if he is to be really good, he would want this).

[LostDoggy]

Re: Ayce Cordy?

Seen Ayce at WO on Thursday, the mop of hair is gone and so was the sling. Bright eyed and bushy tailed you might say. Very upbeat and positive. Seen Markovic as well on his way to a rehab session. He too was looking forward to preseason.