Ayce Cordy?

[SonofScray]

Re: Ayce Cordy?

Not sure how he will go. From all reports he is a lock to develop into a very good player. Potential star. The injuries and hampered first few seasons are a worry IMO, you'd like to see a kid this highly rated in the mix for senior selection much earlier in the piece.

There have been plenty of things go wrong but I wouldn't count his age as an issue. If you're good enough, you're old enough.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Ayce Cordy?

The new sub rule (as previously suggested by GVG) may well suit an up-and-coming tyro who can't run out a game but can come on as an impact sub later in games, but still have the versatility to sub in for an injury if required, and also do their development a world of good.

I can see Roughead and Cordy both having games as the nominated sub next year, even if Ayce is not ready for a first 21 role.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Ayce Cordy?

[QUOTE=DaDruid;188208]Seen Ayce at WO on Thursday, the mop of hair is gone and so was the sling. Bright eyed and bushy tailed you might say. Very upbeat and positive. QUOTE]

Glad to hear this, as a few weeks ago when I was at the Pound, I saw Ayce having lunch. he still had the shoulder in a sling, but managed to put away a good deal of food - LOL! I hope that he can have a cracking pre-season, and perhaps manage a couple of games for us - I haven't seen him play really, just once at Willie and only for a short time as he got injured! I imagine (hope) him to develop into a ruckman, who can wreak havoc on the forward line!

[Go_Dogs]

Re: Ayce Cordy?

My expectations on what he should achieve are pretty low as he hasn't played much footy at all over the past few years. If he can get some continuity and show some steady improvement in the VFL that would be a great result - for his development he just needs to stay on the park.

Could easily improve rapidly if he gets the continuity.

[Rocco Jones]

Re: Ayce Cordy?

The new sub rule (as previously suggested by GVG) may well suit an up-and-coming tyro who can't run out a game but can come on as an impact sub later in games, but still have the versatility to sub in for an injury if required, and also do their development a world of good.

I can see Roughead and Cordy both having games as the nominated sub next year, even if Ayce is not ready for a first 21 role.

I can see where you're coming from but I would prefer us to start with Cordy and Roughead if they warrant a spot in the 22 and then sub one of them off when/if they are struggling and go with a smaller line up to run out the game. They might end up playing the same TOG but it gives us the option to increase it if they are helping us structurally.

I think the sub role will mostly go to the last player who offers run picked. If I had to nominate a Dogs player for it now it would be Veszpremi. He is an explosive type, has fitness issues and will start off as a marginal player.

[Bulldog Revolution]

Re: Ayce Cordy?

Needs to get some fitness continuity, but the new rules actually help Cordy

In the limited stuff I've seen from him he has an exciting set of skills for big man. Good hands, good below his knees, good feel for positioning etc, pretty good kick.

The thing thats been hard to project is how good a ruckman he is, and until he gets bigger and fitter its hard to know.

I'd want to see him really show some solid form for Willy in 2011. It would be great if he pushed for dogs action but its not the be all and end all for me, just getting his body right and playing 15-20 games and developing would satisfy me.

[Hotdog60]

Re: Ayce Cordy?

I can see where you're coming from but I would prefer us to start with Cordy and Roughead if they warrant a spot in the 22 and then sub one of them off when/if they are struggling and go with a smaller line up to run out the game. They might end up playing the same TOG but it gives us the option to increase it if they are helping us structurally.

I think the sub role will mostly go to the last player who offers run picked. If I had to nominate a Dogs player for it now it would be Veszpremi. He is an explosive type, has fitness issues and will start off as a marginal player.

I think the sub player will be Mitch Hahn as by reports he got a 1 year deal, if someone gets injured he would go either down back or play forward.

On Cordy, if he can keep his body right he could grab a game or two next year and I hope he can put all the injuries behind him.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Ayce Cordy?

I can see where you're coming from but I would prefer us to start with Cordy and Roughead if they warrant a spot in the 22 and then sub one of them off when/if they are struggling and go with a smaller line up to run out the game. They might end up playing the same TOG but it gives us the option to increase it if they are helping us structurally.

I think the sub role will mostly go to the last player who offers run picked. If I had to nominate a Dogs player for it now it would be Veszpremi. He is an explosive type, has fitness issues and will start off as a marginal player.

Sorry you're right this was the flipside to my point -- was rushing when writing, thought about it but didn't write it -- as you never know when injury may strike, it may be better to have Ayce/Roughead starting on the ground/interchange with a nominated sub ready to take over if no injuries hit, but if one DOES hit eary Ayce/Roughead will just have to run the game out. More flexible if they get picked in the starting line-up.

Which ironically probably limits their opportunities as Ayce would be a liability to expect to run a game out (should injury hit someone else and the sub is required for that situation).

[GVGjr]

Re: Ayce Cordy?

Seen Ayce at WO on Thursday, the mop of hair is gone and so was the sling. Bright eyed and bushy tailed you might say. Very upbeat and positive. Seen Markovic as well on his way to a rehab session. He too was looking forward to preseason.

If his shoulder issue is behind him he might be able to start adding some strength to his upper body. He really needs to have a good and injury free pre-season.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Re: Ayce Cordy?

Has played about 5 games in 2 & 1/2 years. I would like him to at least string a season together before we can try and work out where he is best suited... because at the moment I would say he is most suited to the rehab room.

Agree that he has some 'scary' traits for a guy 6'8"... lets hope we get to see some of these next year.

5 games in 2 & 1/2 years is tragic. Andrej Everritt and his athletic tallness, being too slow for a fast player and not a great mark for a tall player begs the question: "What value tall athleticism?"
Would we be happy if Ayce turns out to be a David Hale?

[Sockeye Salmon]

Re: Ayce Cordy?

5 games in 2 & 1/2 years is tragic. Andrej Everritt and his athletic tallness, being too slow for a fast player and not a great mark for a tall player begs the question: "What value tall athleticism?"
Would we be happy if Ayce turns out to be a David Hale?

Would we be happy if he turns out to be a Dean Cox?

[Desipura]

Re: Ayce Cordy?

Would we be happy if he turns out to be a Dean Cox?

He will never get the physique of a Cox so it is difficult to compare.

[Sockeye Salmon]

Re: Ayce Cordy?

He will never get the physique of a Cox so it is difficult to compare.

Why not?

Cox is hardly built like Schwarzenegger.

[Desipura]

Re: Ayce Cordy?

Why not?

Cox is hardly built like Schwarzenegger.

And Cordy is hardly built like Cox. He may not be built like Arnie but he is 105 kgs, not too many players that heavy.

[GVGjr]

Re: Ayce Cordy?

Why not?

Cox is hardly built like Schwarzenegger.

Cordy is not big enough across the shoulders to ever be regarded as a genuinely big player. I don't mind the Hale comparison. Handy as a forward and in the ruck is a good aim for Cordy.