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  • Nuggety Back Pocket
    WOOF Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 2064

    Lake omission disgraceful

    The pending decision to drop Brian Lake for the Sydney Swans encounter beggars belief.
    In a defensive unit that now has only three class defenders in Murphy, Morris and Lake I find this likely decision extroadinary.
    Have we ever had such an inept goal to goal line without Hall and Lake at either end that exists at the moment?
    Since Lake arrived at the club he has always had a weakness in allowing key forwards to lead him to the ball. It didn't just happen for the first time last Sunday against Collingwood.
    Lake's great strength however has been his ability to out muscle and outmark continually the opposition's best forward. If there was ever a time to retain Lake in the senior lineup then this is the moment. Could you ever imagine Essendon dropping Fletcher or Geelong, Scarlett in similar circumstances.
    It is ironic that a non-contact player in Giansircusa comes into the side this week whilst one of our few stars in Lake languishes at Williamstown!
    From a position of strength in making the previous three preliminary finals, on present indications we will struggle to make the final 8 in 2011.
  • Desipura
    WOOF Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 4344

    #2
    Re: Lake omission disgraceful

    Originally posted by Nuggety Back Pocket
    The pending decision to drop Brian Lake for the Sydney Swans encounter beggars belief.
    In a defensive unit that now has only three class defenders in Murphy, Morris and Lake I find this likely decision extroadinary.
    Have we ever had such an inept goal to goal line without Hall and Lake at either end that exists at the moment?
    Since Lake arrived at the club he has always had a weakness in allowing key forwards to lead him to the ball. It didn't just happen for the first time last Sunday against Collingwood.
    Lake's great strength however has been his ability to out muscle and outmark continually the opposition's best forward. If there was ever a time to retain Lake in the senior lineup then this is the moment. Could you ever imagine Essendon dropping Fletcher or Geelong, Scarlett in similar circumstances.
    It is ironic that a non-contact player in Giansircusa comes into the side this week whilst one of our few stars in Lake languishes at Williamstown!
    From a position of strength in making the previous three preliminary finals, on present indications we will struggle to make the final 8 in 2011.
    The call was correct given that there is no real match up for him and he is sadly out of form.

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    • Mantis
      Hall of Fame
      • Apr 2007
      • 15322

      #3
      Re: Lake omission disgraceful

      While your passion can't be denied N.B.P your opinions and views are off the mark.

      I have it on pretty good authority that Brian himself was keen for this move to take place as he doen't feel his body is capable of playing the type of footy we expect of him at the minute.

      Hopefully after a few weeks of conditioning and playing at a lower level he can return in good shape and start playing the type of footy we know know he can.

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      • Sockeye Salmon
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 6365

        #4
        Re: Lake omission disgraceful

        Originally posted by Nuggety Back Pocket
        The pending decision to drop Brian Lake for the Sydney Swans encounter beggars belief.
        In a defensive unit that now has only three class defenders in Murphy, Morris and Lake I find this likely decision extroadinary.
        Have we ever had such an inept goal to goal line without Hall and Lake at either end that exists at the moment?
        Since Lake arrived at the club he has always had a weakness in allowing key forwards to lead him to the ball. It didn't just happen for the first time last Sunday against Collingwood.
        Lake's great strength however has been his ability to out muscle and outmark continually the opposition's best forward. If there was ever a time to retain Lake in the senior lineup then this is the moment. Could you ever imagine Essendon dropping Fletcher or Geelong, Scarlett in similar circumstances.
        It is ironic that a non-contact player in Giansircusa comes into the side this week whilst one of our few stars in Lake languishes at Williamstown!
        From a position of strength in making the previous three preliminary finals, on present indications we will struggle to make the final 8 in 2011.
        If you're not fit you don't play.

        Not that difficult a concept to understand, surely?

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        • Maddog37
          WOOF Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 3132

          #5
          Re: Lake omission disgraceful

          I do not like this move at all but for the life of me I cannot explain why.....

          It is like running Phar Lap at the Hanging Rock Picnic races.

          I hope he is a late call up.

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          • Cyberdoggie
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 2859

            #6
            Re: Lake omission disgraceful

            Originally posted by Maddog37
            I do not like this move at all but for the life of me I cannot explain why.....

            It is like running Phar Lap at the Hanging Rock Picnic races.

            I hope he is a late call up.
            Perhaps Phar Lap just needs a spell to get him right for the spring carnival.

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            • Topdog
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jan 2007
              • 7471

              #7
              Re: Lake omission disgraceful

              I love the call. I hope and pray that this very simple concept is applied to all players.

              Unfortunately I doubt it will be.

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              • The Coon Dog
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 7578

                #8
                Re: Lake omission disgraceful

                Does anyone really believe a decision to move Brian back to Williamstown wouldn't have occurred without a decent level of consultation?

                I reckon the hardest thing for footy supporters is sometimes understanding why certain decisions are arrived at, principally because we aren't privy to the inner workings of the club.

                If we were, I'm sure we'd probably agree with what happens much more than we do & I'm not suggesting for a minute we should be, just using it as a reason to demonstrate my point.

                For what its worth I think the title of this thread could have been worded better too.
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                • Nuggety Back Pocket
                  WOOF Member
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 2064

                  #9
                  Re: Lake omission disgraceful

                  Originally posted by Maddog37
                  I do not like this move at all but for the life of me I cannot explain why.....

                  It is like running Phar Lap at the Hanging Rock Picnic races.

                  I hope he is a late call up.
                  Thank you Maddog37, I thought I was running out of friends!
                  If Brian Lake is down on form then he has a few mates. You simply do not make an example of one of your better players. If we had been a better team then surely Lake should have been carried for a couple of weeks in the seniors to regain form.
                  Are we now suggesting that players like Williams and Markovic are better options?
                  Please give me a break!

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                  • G-Mo77
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 9873

                    #10
                    Re: Lake omission disgraceful

                    Originally posted by Nuggety Back Pocket
                    Thank you Maddog37, I thought I was running out of friends!
                    If Brian Lake is down on form then he has a few mates. You simply do not make an example of one of your better players. If we had been a better team then surely Lake should have been carried for a couple of weeks in the seniors to regain form.
                    Are we now suggesting that players like Williams and Markovic are better options?
                    Please give me a break!
                    Have you ever thought Lake being down on form could have something to do with all the surgeries in the off-season? IMO he came back far too early and is paying for it. It's a long season, no need to run him into the ground this early, rest him up and bring him back when he's ready.

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                    • Topdog
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 7471

                      #11
                      Re: Lake omission disgraceful

                      Originally posted by Nuggety Back Pocket
                      Thank you Maddog37, I thought I was running out of friends!
                      If Brian Lake is down on form then he has a few mates. You simply do not make an example of one of your better players. If we had been a better team then surely Lake should have been carried for a couple of weeks in the seniors to regain form.
                      Are we now suggesting that players like Williams and Markovic are better options?
                      Please give me a break!
                      Words can't described how strongly I disagree with the bolded part.

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                      • Maddog37
                        WOOF Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 3132

                        #12
                        Re: Lake omission disgraceful

                        The positives are obviously the improvement of Marko and Tommy which allows this decision to be made without a total meltdown from supporters.

                        I hope this not only benefits Brian but gives the whole team a wake up call. Quite a few times now Rocket has stated players were not following the team structures when we have lost.

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                        • comrade
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 17924

                          #13
                          Re: Lake omission disgraceful

                          Originally posted by Topdog
                          Words can't described how strongly I disagree with the bolded part.
                          Seconded.

                          Ross Lyon dropped Steve Milne and Nick Dal Santo for not adhering to his game plan. That worked out ok.
                          Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66161

                            #14
                            Re: Lake omission disgraceful

                            Originally posted by Nuggety Back Pocket
                            Thank you Maddog37, I thought I was running out of friends!
                            If Brian Lake is down on form then he has a few mates. You simply do not make an example of one of your better players. If we had been a better team then surely Lake should have been carried for a couple of weeks in the seniors to regain form.
                            Are we now suggesting that players like Williams and Markovic are better options?
                            Please give me a break!
                            His knee is still a little sore. Have a read the articles on him in todays Age newspaper. The club made a mistake returning him to play in round 3, but hey at the time they thought it was the right decision.

                            I would rather have Lake fully fit and ready for the second half of the season instead of risking him now.
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                            • westdog54
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 6686

                              #15
                              Re: Lake omission disgraceful

                              I'm glad that rational thought has been a running theme in this thread.

                              He's not just out of form, he's horribly out of form. He looks hampered and had a fraction of a pre-season.

                              Generally speaking it wouldn't be true, but with things they are at the moment, yes, Markovic and Williams are better options. Markovic has surprised a hell of a lot of people since he debuted and only seems to be getting better.

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