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  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    #61
    Re: Lake omission disgraceful

    Good decision. Even Superman needs time to recover after a particularly bad dose of kryptonite.

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    • ratsmac
      WOOF Member
      • May 2009
      • 3975

      #62
      Re: Lake omission disgraceful

      Injured players shouldn't be playing if it hinders their form. I know every player has normally some sort of injury but if it causes you to play the way Lake has been playing, well they should be out there because it could possibly cause a 8 goal smashing in the last quarter. Not saying its Lakes fault that we got smashed in the last quarter against the pies but it looked like there was unfit players out there.

      The MC have made the call and I think (hope) it is the right decision.
      They've done studies you know, 60% of the time, it works every time!
      Brian Fantana.

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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        #63
        Re: Lake omission disgraceful

        Originally posted by M.R.M
        Is he mentally right?

        Heard on SEN this morning that Eagleton had pending legal action towards Lake as a result of a business venture.

        They were involved in that child care centre, also with Cooney IIRC, wern't they?

        Could be two-fold - mental and physical
        Yep. Mrs. Eagleton released a statement saying that they are going through a legal process against Lake.

        Also rumour that in 2010 Lake said he didn't want to play in the same team as Eagle in our game against Port in Darwin

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        • Desipura
          WOOF Member
          • Mar 2008
          • 4344

          #64
          Re: Lake omission disgraceful

          Originally posted by Danstar
          Yep. Mrs. Eagleton released a statement saying that they are going through a legal process against Lake.

          Also rumour that in 2010 Lake said he didn't want to play in the same team as Eagle in our game against Port in Darwin
          What is it with these Sth Aussies, first it was Edwards & MacLeod now Eagle and Harris.
          Went to the playcentre recently, Lake's picture still up there even though they have sold the business.

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          • egan-kennedy-ford

            #65
            Re: Lake omission disgraceful

            I'm adding my voice to those agreeing with the decision to rest Lake.

            The MC have a supposed policy of not playing those who are not fully fit, so the real question is why was he picked to play in the first place??

            It's easy in hindsight I know, but he (and the club) would be in much better shape now if he'd spent the last month thoroughly completing his rehabilitation and starting his year off with Willy around now.

            The real plus in the whole scenario is that Markovic has stepped up to the point where we feel that we have adequate cover should Lake be less than 100%. Gee he's been impressive this year and some extra gametime with full key defender responsibilities will only further his development.

            For years our backline has been stretched to cover a range of quality marking forwards, if we have a fully fit and firing Lake, Williams, Markovic and Morris to choose from coming into the finals this year it will be a great luxury.

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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              #66
              Re: Lake omission disgraceful

              Originally posted by Flamethrower
              Finally the club gets it right. After all these years of not making a huge statement by actually omitting an underperforming senior player, Rocket and the MC bite the bullet and do the right thing. This could very well be a turning point in our underperforming history.
              They've got it right if they are consistent with this new policy, otherwise its just as
              bad as what we were doing last year .

              edit - can anyone here honestly say cooney is 100%? if so why is he playing as a forward when we so clearly lack speed in the midfield.

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              • Ghost Dog
                WOOF Member
                • May 2010
                • 9404

                #67
                Re: Lake omission disgraceful

                Originally posted by Danstar
                Yep. Mrs. Eagleton released a statement saying that they are going through a legal process against Lake.

                Also rumour that in 2010 Lake said he didn't want to play in the same team as Eagle in our game against Port in Darwin
                I hate seeing our name in the papers for any reason other than doing well on field!
                You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 67701

                  #68
                  Re: Lake omission disgraceful

                  Originally posted by Danstar
                  Also rumour that in 2010 Lake said he didn't want to play in the same team as Eagle in our game against Port in Darwin
                  The real truth is Mantis refused to watch the game if Eagle was playing and wanted to fly back to Melbourne
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                  • Scorlibo
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 3097

                    #69
                    Re: Lake omission disgraceful

                    I don't mind the Lake decision, even if it is being extraordinarily misinterpreted by the media, but my question would be why have we not done the same thing with Cooney? Who is in just as poor form, undoubtedly due to his own limited pre-season, and he is somewhat more replaceable than Lake.
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                    • Topdog
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 7483

                      #70
                      Re: Lake omission disgraceful

                      Originally posted by Chops
                      I would have thought years of being able to do it is as much as putting up your hand.
                      I suppose we will have to agree to disagree about doing it in important games.

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 67701

                        #71
                        Re: Lake omission disgraceful

                        Originally posted by Desipura
                        Is Skinner putting his hand up?
                        How about Roughy?
                        Skinner - maybe he is. I haven't seen him at Willi, but maybe he has that forward defensive pressure that the coach is looking for. Roughy had a go and now he is dropped. Last year we blooded plenty of kids but by the time round 22 came, many dropped away.

                        eg: Jones was hardly getting a touch.
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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 67701

                          #72
                          Re: Lake omission disgraceful

                          Originally posted by Topdog
                          Well Hahn, Johnno and Eagleton certainly didn't put their hands up.
                          Well who should have played instead of those three? All three had periods out of the seniors but by the time year end came around, none of the younger players were putting their hand up.
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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            #73
                            Re: Lake omission disgraceful

                            Originally posted by The Coon Dog
                            Does anyone really believe a decision to move Brian back to Williamstown wouldn't have occurred without a decent level of consultation?

                            I reckon the hardest thing for footy supporters is sometimes understanding why certain decisions are arrived at, principally because we aren't privy to the inner workings of the club.

                            If we were, I'm sure we'd probably agree with what happens much more than we do & I'm not suggesting for a minute we should be, just using it as a reason to demonstrate my point.

                            For what its worth I think the title of this thread could have been worded better too.
                            Dropping a player because he isn't fit is fine. The question is why was he good enough for three weeks and now he is not fit enough. Otherwise this is just internal politics. Looks like the tail is wagging the dog once again.

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                            • azabob
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 15483

                              #74
                              Re: Lake omission disgraceful

                              Originally posted by Asylum Ward
                              Dropping a player because he isn't fit is fine. The question is why was he good enough for three weeks and now he is not fit enough. Otherwise this is just internal politics. Looks like the tail is wagging the dog once again.
                              The club perhaps thought he could get fit by playing AFL. What do you mean by the tail wagging the dog?
                              More of an In Bruges guy?

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                              • Desipura
                                WOOF Member
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 4344

                                #75
                                Re: Lake omission disgraceful

                                Originally posted by bornadog
                                Skinner - maybe he is. I haven't seen him at Willi, but maybe he has that forward defensive pressure that the coach is looking for. Roughy had a go and now he is dropped. Last year we blooded plenty of kids but by the time round 22 came, many dropped away.

                                eg: Jones was hardly getting a touch.
                                Neither was Johnno and Hahn. This conversation is going around in circles

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