Season over

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Season over

Sake the coack?? Sake hmmmm maybe a good idea to drown my sorrows.

Looking at our club as though it was a business.

1. It's not performing as we wish. Yes, tough to take on Eagles at home, but we are very far off the pace.
2. The plan, whatever it was, has not worked.
3. The current coaching staff make the plan. The buck stops with them
4. Time for an honest and full assessment of where we are at. Common sense says we cannot make the flag this year.
5. It's ok. It happens and up until this game, there was some optimism. Honestly is the best policy now. cant change past
6. For those who feel gutted. Remeber, Worsfold was a wooden spoon coach in the not too distant past. We'll get through this.

[Desipura]

Re: Season over

I'm over rebuilding, Im over another season without a premiership. I can only tolerate so much of this

[1eyedog]

Re: Season over

I think we are a better team than the Dockers. Nearly ran over them in Perth and if we had a full squad to choose from we would beat them at the G. We are playing for 7th or 8th spot in the 8 against the Swans and Saints. This is a bad loss but if we make the finals anything can happen.

[Before I Die]

Re: Season over

Sake the coack?? Sake hmmmm maybe a good idea to drown my sorrows.

Looking at our club as though it was a business.

1. It's not performing as we wish. Yes, tough to take on Eagles at home, but we are very far off the pace.
2. The plan, whatever it was, has not worked.
3. The current coaching staff make the plan. The buck stops with them
4. Time for an honest and full assessment of where we are at. Common sense says we cannot make the flag this year.
5. It's ok. It happens and up until this game, there was some optimism. Honestly is the best policy now. cant change past
6. For those who feel gutted. Remeber, Worsfold was a wooden spoon coach in the not too distant past. We'll get through this.

Excellent point. After 3 prelims, it was probably always going to take a poor year to force a change in our game plan. I want Eade to stay, but I believe the game plan has to change.

[Bulldog Revolution]

Re: Season over

I think thats a bit unfair - we got vez for everitt who wasnt getting a game in our team and vez is just back from broken finger. Djerkurra cost us a pack of chips - wouldnt have got anything better with that draft pick.

I've agreed with a lot of what you've posted in this thread, but we've trotted out that ridiculous line: "we couldn't have got a better player" in the draft too many times

I dont have a problem with taking a punt on those two players but we gave up too much for DJ

[Evel]

Re: season over

I wouldn't drop all of them. Hargrave, Murphy and one of Gilbee/Gia to keep playing.

It means that Cross & one of Gilbee/Gia step aside. Murphy can still switch between back and forward, so it gives us flexibility in a sense if we wish to bring in a forward (Veszpremi? Dahlhaus?) or a back (Howard? Schofield?) or a mid (Tutt?).

Alternating is a good option, too. Bringing them all in once would be risky, but introducing Howard and Tutt over a 6 week span (Eg. 3 weeks each on average) would be worthwhile.

I think it's idiocy to continue playing all of Hargrave, Gia, Gilbee, Murphy, Boyd, Cross and Hudson.

It's extremely unfortunate that Roughead got injured.

Good post.

We can't write the season off yet, it's only nine rounds in, the club can't just concede and play all the kids. We'll get smashed. That said, we do need to build a team that will compete now and challenge for a flag in the coming years. This means established senior players must come under scrutiny and fringe players who are putting in need to be given a shot. Agree that replacements have to be found for Gilbee, Cross and Hudson. Boyd, Murphy, Hargrave and Gia should keep their spots for now.

Of the kids, I would like to see Schofield, Tutt and Dahlhaus get a run. Don't think Howard and Vez would contribute anymore than current players at the moment.

[GVGjr]

Re: Season over

He did win the spoon and also got them a Flag. Got rid of their best player and got the bloke who kicked 10 against us today

[Mischief]

Re: Season over

I don't think the season is over. Eade said the guys weren't following his instructions today, so how could he do anything else to make them play properly? Their hearts weren't in it today, and it was the most disappointing loss I can remember. Need to give some players a reality check and drop them, and give some of our young guys a chance.

[GVGjr]

Re: Season over

Endeavor, spirit and commitment are not 'instructions'. They are non negotiables, weeK in, week out. This was not merely a failure of a game plan. Will be disappointed if this is how Rocket spins it.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Season over

I don't think the season is over. Eade said the guys weren't following his instructions today, so how could he do anything else to make them play properly? Their hearts weren't in it today, and it was the most disappointing loss I can remember. Need to give some players a reality check and drop them, and give some of our young guys a chance.

We can't make the top four now, not unless we go on a miracle run & not drop more then 3 games, season is finished.

Maybe he has lost the playing group, the guys aren't playing for him, it has happened a few times this season.

The weeks ahead are huge for our club.

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Season over

I like to think of myself as an extension of the club. If the fans say its over then how can we ask the players to keep on showing their best, week in or week out?
Maybe it's the shake up we need to get rid of any 'ekers'
Rocket is certainly under the pump now.
This club needs to salvage some pride. Worry about relationship between coach and players. something's amiss

[BulldogBelle]

Re: Season over

Sake the coack?? Sake hmmmm maybe a good idea to drown my sorrows.

Looking at our club as though it was a business.

1. It's not performing as we wish. Yes, tough to take on Eagles at home, but we are very far off the pace.
2. The plan, whatever it was, has not worked.
3. The current coaching staff make the plan. The buck stops with them
4. Time for an honest and full assessment of where we are at. Common sense says we cannot make the flag this year.
5. It's ok. It happens and up until this game, there was some optimism. Honestly is the best policy now. cant change past
6. For those who feel gutted. Remeber, Worsfold was a wooden spoon coach in the not too distant past. We'll get through this.

So, if it were my business I would investigate what areas aren't performing to target;

1) Players
a) Forwards
b) Mids
c) Backs

Which individual players aren't performing to target?

2) Coaching Staff
a) Is our game plan - and broader match strategy correct?
b) Do players understand what is required of them?
c) On a tactical level (read game day) do the coaching staff make the right decisions?

3) Strength and Conditioning

4) Injury Management and Rehabilitation

etc etc


I would be looking at which of the above areas will deliver the biggest result, and how difficult they are to fix...

[LostDoggy]

Re: Season over

I like to think of myself as an extension of the club. If the fans say its over then how can we ask the players to keep on showing their best, week in or week out?
Maybe it's the shake up we need to get rid of any 'ekers'
Rocket is certainly under the pump now.
This club needs to salvage some pride. Worry about relationship between coach and players. something's amiss

Something is amiss. You simply cannot take that sort of effort onto the field. We would have lost to GWS if we played them today.

[FrediKanoute]

Re: Season over

Eade has to go he has lost the players .With G.W.S coming in i would trade Higgins and try and get get one of their 16 year old picks .
They get 5 and the will all be guns. Higgins is an injury or accident away from not playing get him out and at least get something while he still has currency STACK AND HILL have to go both a waste trade them for what every you can get.
Play all the the kids that might make it and i would even offer up Lake he obviously does not respect the dogs with the shape he has turned up this year get something while we still can i'm a very disappointed life long doggies supporter enough is enough .
WE NEED TO MAKE TOUGH DECISION SAKE THE COACH

Maybe not sacking the coach is the tough decision......

[Mischief]

Re: Season over

"Perhaps the biggest disappointment for Eade was that when his team did win possession they continued to over-handball and didn't kick enough. That totally went against his instructions."

Season isn't over just because you can't make the top 4. Any team in the finals has a chance to get into the Grand final.