Round 10 Team

[Bornadog]

Re: Round 10 Team

^^

Gia wasn't that bad last week in my view.

With limited opportunity, he contributed to half our goals.

[Mofra]

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Depends on your definition of 'proper scrutiny', Mofra.

If 'proper scrutiny' means suggesting that Hahn and Gia provided adequate forward pressure last year, and reminding us of Hahn being dropped once in 2006 and Gilbee once in 2011, then you're right, it doesn't.

However if 'proper scrutiny' means watching how our team has been selected consistently over a number of years and how a number of out of form players have consistently been given games regardless of their output, then actually, it does.

I watched Williamstown most weeks last year. The cupboard wasn't nearly so empty as to justify Hahn getting a game consistently after round eighteen when he should have been sent packing. We had options, but Eade had committed to Yesterday's Heroes and was unwilling to change.

Hahn and Gia laid more tackles than all our other forwards combined last year, considering Hill was used all over the pack.
I note nobody has been able to challenge the downhill skiier refence to Barry Hall in a few threads I've posted in - I guess only some players are required to adhere to basic team principles. Change Hall's name to Gia and most would want him beheaded.

The fact is, senior players with senior experience will generally perform better than untried youngsters - and we seem to have a system in place for developing youngsters in any case, considering the method of debut used for Sam Reid, Jarrod Grant, Josh Hill & Liam Jones.

The calls for Skinner's inclusion in the senior side have dropped off since his debut too - maybe the grass isn't always greener on the other side?

Has anyone actually considered the radical proposal that full time professionals with 100% of the information actually know the playing list better than Joe Public sitting on the sidelines? Shock horror!

[Mofra]

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I would not have dropped Cross or Gia - I think it's worth seeing Cross in the forward half, but of course I'll defer to the MC's wisdom. Gia wasn't that bad last week in my view.

I doubt we'll ever see Cross come off the field beaten for lack of effort, and he can actually find the ball - with a 100 disposal differential, thsi bit actually becomes important.

Forget the goal tally, Gia & Jones were the two standout forwards last week in terms of actually providing a lead as much as possible - we desperately need targets to kick to and they were the only two forwards who did so.

[Sedat]

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I watched Williamstown most weeks last year. The cupboard wasn't nearly so empty as to justify Hahn getting a game consistently after round eighteen when he should have been sent packing. We had options, but Eade had committed to Yesterday's Heroes and was unwilling to change.

A legitimate criticism in hindsight but this senior core had served the team well for 3 seasons and being late in the season the MC presumably went with the senior group to lead them home. Cooney and Morris going down shot our September plans to ribbons, irrespective of whether or not the majority of the team was dad's army.

Rocket has certainly given the team ample fresh blood in 2011.

[GVGjr]

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I doubt we'll ever see Cross come off the field beaten for lack of effort, and he can actually find the ball - with a 100 disposal differential, thsi bit actually becomes important.

Forget the goal tally, Gia & Jones were the two standout forwards last week in terms of actually providing a lead as much as possible - we desperately need targets to kick to and they were the only two forwards who did so.

This is a problem though if he can't use the ball properly. I love Crossy but the amount of time we find the ball in the wrong player's hands to hurt the opposition is astounding. Once the opposition cover our good ball users, which is only Murphy this season, we are in real strife because none of our players can hurt the opposition by foot.

[GVGjr]

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Rocket has certainly given the team ample fresh blood in 2011.

Yes, he has but only by necessity. Liberatore is the only youngster at the start of the season who earnt his selection by merit, Wallis is the another who had a good preseason. Others have played more because of injuries to key players. It has been the proverbial shuffling of deckchairs.

[westdog54]

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Final Bench is Moles, Hill, Reid and Sherman. Howard and Wallis named on the ground.

Emergencies are Hudson, Djerkurra and Markovic.

So we're playing Howard, Wallis, Libba, Ward, Wood and Reid in the same game. And we've dropped Hudson and Gilbee.

I hear one more crack about Eade 'playing favourites' and not playing kids I will dead set blow my top.

Minson has the challenge of his career ahead of him. Looks like he might be rucking for a full game, unless Williams or Jones Pinch-hit.

[G-Mo77]

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Williams/Morris to play on Franklin then.

Good to see Reid in the team.

[Sockeye Salmon]

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Hahn and Gia laid more tackles than all our other forwards combined last year, considering Hill was used all over the pack.
I note nobody has been able to challenge the downhill skiier refence to Barry Hall in a few threads I've posted in - I guess only some players are required to adhere to basic team principles. Change Hall's name to Gia and most would want him beheaded.

The fact is, senior players with senior experience will generally perform better than untried youngsters - and we seem to have a system in place for developing youngsters in any case, considering the method of debut used for Sam Reid, Jarrod Grant, Josh Hill & Liam Jones.

The calls for Skinner's inclusion in the senior side have dropped off since his debut too - maybe the grass isn't always greener on the other side?

Has anyone actually considered the radical proposal that full time professionals with 100% of the information actually know the playing list better than Joe Public sitting on the sidelines? Shock horror!

Wish I'd written that.

[Bornadog]

Re: Round 10 Team

Final Bench is Moles, Hill, Reid and Sherman. Howard and Wallis named on the ground.

Emergencies are Hudson, Djerkurra and Markovic.

So we're playing Howard, Wallis, Libba, Ward, Wood and Reid in the same game. And we've dropped Hudson and Gilbee.

I hear one more crack about Eade 'playing favourites' and not playing kids I will dead set blow my top.

Minson has the challenge of his career ahead of him. Looks like he might be rucking for a full game, unless Williams or Jones Pinch-hit.

Would have liked DJ in rather than Reid, but I guess Reids hardness at tyhe ball and the ability to spread quickly got him over the line.

[the banker]

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Radical.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Re: Round 10 Team

Final Bench is Moles, Hill, Reid and Sherman. Howard and Wallis named on the ground.

Emergencies are Hudson, Djerkurra and Markovic.

So we're playing Howard, Wallis, Libba, Ward, Wood and Reid in the same game. And we've dropped Hudson and Gilbee.

I hear one more crack about Eade 'playing favourites' and not playing kids I will dead set blow my top.

Minson has the challenge of his career ahead of him. Looks like he might be rucking for a full game, unless Williams or Jones Pinch-hit.

You are joking, right?

This is a great move by the MC, but understand this has taken FAR too long. To expect people to put a smile on their face and pretend 'everything's fine' is ridiculous. We are not sheep; we have the ability to analyse and criticise where we see fit.

As I said, I'm glad these changes have been made ... but I'm not about to be singing Eade's praises. It's overdue, and after a 120 point drubbing, it's not as though he had much choice.

[Sedat]

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Provided Hall is aerobically fit enough (and he should be OK given he had a good hitout in the VFL last week), I'd like to see him as the pinch-hit ruck option whenever Minno needs a breather, leaving Jones deep when Hall does go into the ruck.

Those that saw Hall in the VFL last week, did he look OK post-surgery? He was moving around the ground like an old man against Freo so I hope the operation has put the spring back in his legs.

[Mantis]

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Would have liked DJ in rather than Reid, but I guess Reids hardness at tyhe ball and the ability to spread quickly got him over the line.

Is this a new feature of Sam's game?

[Rocco Jones]

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Those that saw Hall in the VFL last week, did he look OK post-surgery? He was moving around the ground like an old man against Freo so I hope the operation has put the spring back in his legs.

He moved well in a VFL/old school FF way. Looked like a gazelle on the lead and a sloth everywhere else.

Not sure if it's the injury or his age/style but I really can't see him offering much defensively. I think we sacrifice a bit in playing him but I do believe he is worth it, just have to be wary with who we play around him. Very happy to see Hudson out as I think Hudson, Minson and Hall do not belong in the same side.