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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 66707

    Re: Game Day 2011 - R10 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

    Originally posted by remember54
    It's not that I think Eade is a poor coach but it must be extremely hard for him to rationally and clinically assess the list and players with whom he has a close bond. These guys achieved a lot for him. I've heard him describing Cross as the guy you'd love your daughter to bring home. Could he really run a cold hard eye over a bloke like this and say, he is not the future, we'll cut him.

    I wonder if Eade has the stomach (different from guts) to make these calls on guys he's been in the trenches with for so many years. For that reason I think a change of coach while the transition happens may be a good thing.
    Do you really think its just one person that makes these decisions? There is a whole coaching panel and a General Manager of Football Operations.
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    • Ghost Dog
      WOOF Member
      • May 2010
      • 9404

      Re: Game Day 2011 - R10 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

      Originally posted by bornadog
      Do you really think its just one person that makes these decisions? There is a whole coaching panel and a General Manager of Football Operations.
      But the coach has the final say. Doesn't he?
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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        Re: Game Day 2011 - R10 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

        Originally posted by bornadog
        Do you really think its just one person that makes these decisions? There is a whole coaching panel and a General Manager of Football Operations.
        The coach would have a pretty strong say in the matter, would he not?

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 66707

          Re: Game Day 2011 - R10 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

          Originally posted by Glove38
          The coach would have a pretty strong say in the matter, would he not?
          Yes he would but, I doubt he is stupid enough to keep players because he hasn't got it in him to get rid of them or they are his favourites. Surely people don't think the club is totally unprofessional and the club doesn't have a review system to work out who they should keep and who they shouldn't.

          Go back to the 1996 review in the Year of The dog and you see Wallet even back then assessing each player with his MC. These days its not just sitting around with the MC there would be input from fitness guys, physios, Doctors , sports science, list management, salary cap, etc etc.

          Anyone that thinks Eade sits there and makes all the decisions without consulting others in the club hasn't got a clue.
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          • GVGjr
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 44636

            Re: Game Day 2011 - R10 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

            Originally posted by bornadog
            Yes he would but, I doubt he is stupid enough to keep players because he hasn't got it in him to get rid of them or they are his favourites. Surely people don't think the club is totally unprofessional and the club doesn't have a review system to work out who they should keep and who they shouldn't.

            Go back to the 1996 review in the Year of The dog and you see Wallet even back then assessing each player with his MC. These days its not just sitting around with the MC there would be input from fitness guys, physios, Doctors , sports science, list management, salary cap, etc etc.

            Anyone that thinks Eade sits there and makes all the decisions without consulting others in the club hasn't got a clue.
            It's disappointing that people have to keep attacking other posters like this. I don't think my post implied Rocket was stupid. Is it possible to make the same point, that any such decisions are not one person's alone, without adopting this kind of tone?
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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              Re: Game Day 2011 - R10 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

              Originally posted by bornadog
              Yes he would but, I doubt he is stupid enough to keep players because he hasn't got it in him to get rid of them or they are his favourites. Surely people don't think the club is totally unprofessional and the club doesn't have a review system to work out who they should keep and who they shouldn't.

              Go back to the 1996 review in the Year of The dog and you see Wallet even back then assessing each player with his MC. These days its not just sitting around with the MC there would be input from fitness guys, physios, Doctors , sports science, list management, salary cap, etc etc.

              Anyone that thinks Eade sits there and makes all the decisions without consulting others in the club hasn't got a clue.
              A review of each player is all well & good, but surely the buck stops with someone?

              I would be surprised if it came down to a vote situation on players.

              Originally posted by remember54
              It's disappointing that people have to keep attacking other posters like this. I don't think my post implied Rocket was stupid. Is it possible to make the same point, that any such decisions are not one person's alone, without adopting this kind of tone?
              It is a reason why i don't visit this forum as often as i once did.
              Last edited by LostDoggy; 30-05-2011, 06:37 PM.

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              • AndrewP6
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2009
                • 8142

                Re: Game Day 2011 - R10 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

                Originally posted by Magic Griffen
                They were saying on the radio during the game that they thought Bazza was injured and was unable to run at all? Is that true, I haven't seen anyone mention this....
                Well, he wasn't exactly gazelle-like.
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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66707

                  Re: Game Day 2011 - R10 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

                  Originally posted by remember54
                  It's disappointing that people have to keep attacking other posters like this. I don't think my post implied Rocket was stupid. Is it possible to make the same point, that any such decisions are not one person's alone, without adopting this kind of tone?
                  You call that attacking you, I was responding to your post. Gee everyone is getting very sensitive.
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                  • Desipura
                    WOOF Member
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 4344

                    Re: Game Day 2011 - R10 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    You call that attacking you, I was responding to your post. Gee everyone is getting very sensitive.
                    Seriously..........dont worry about it BAD, I don't think you would ever attack anyone, it does not appear to be a part of your nature.

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 66707

                      Re: Game Day 2011 - R10 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

                      Originally posted by Desipura
                      Seriously..........dont worry about it BAD, I don't think you would ever attack anyone, it does not appear to be a part of your nature.
                      Desi, I am not sure what to make of your post
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                      • Desipura
                        WOOF Member
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 4344

                        Re: Game Day 2011 - R10 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        Desi, I am not sure what to make of your post
                        When I start it with seriously, do you think I am joking? No, I was being complimentary.

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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 66707

                          Re: Game Day 2011 - R10 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

                          Originally posted by Desipura
                          When I start it with seriously, do you think I am joking? No, I was being complimentary.
                          ok, I thought it was tongue in cheek. Thanks.
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                          • Desipura
                            WOOF Member
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 4344

                            Re: Game Day 2011 - R10 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            ok, I thought it was tongue in cheek. Thanks.
                            I was serious

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