Liam Jones's Improvement

[stefoid]

Re: Liam Jones's Improvement

Prostats must be wrong then. Where is Liam on your list.

They may measure contested marks a little more harshly.

[divvydan]

Re: Liam Jones's Improvement

The figures are from the official AFL site.

On there, Jones is in equal 7th total but Cloke, Pods, McEvoy, S.Reid, Kennedy, Goodes have all had a finals game as well.

If you take W1 finals out, Jones goes above Goodes, Reid and equal with Kennedy in equal 5th with Fyfe as well.

[Bornadog]

Re: Liam Jones's Improvement

They may measure contested marks a little more harshly.

How do you mean?

[Sockeye Salmon]

Re: Liam Jones's Improvement

Galaxy Coleman took over 200 marks in 1992

[Bornadog]

Re: Liam Jones's Improvement

Galaxy Coleman took over 200 marks in 1992

So did Lake last year - 240

[Mofra]

Re: Liam Jones's Improvement

So did Lake last year - 240

Half of thsoe were in that North Meblourne game where he had 576 possies though

[Bornadog]

Re: Liam Jones's Improvement

Half of thsoe were in that North Meblourne game where he had 576 possies though

One of my favourite games last year. Hall's headlock on Thompson, Lake on his own in the backline playing kick to kick and smashing North.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Re: Liam Jones's Improvement

So did Lake last year - 240

Lot of people forget how good Lake is/was.

[Sedat]

Re: Liam Jones's Improvement

Lot of people forget how good Lake is/was.

He is an elite player of the competition, superior to every other key defender from 2008-2010 (including Scarlett). His head-space will determine whether or not he will scale those heights again in a Bulldogs jumper.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Liam Jones's Improvement

173 isn't huge, Loewe used to take well over 200 a season back in the day...however Cloke's contested mark figure for 2011 is much higher than the number you produced.

Buckets taking an awesome grab then kicking a behind is my abiding memory of '90s footy, for some reason. I always used to check to see how many behinds the Saints kicked in their game, just for a laugh.

[westdog54]

Re: Liam Jones's Improvement

One of my favourite games last year. Hall's headlock on Thompson, Lake on his own in the backline playing kick to kick and smashing North.

After the 'headlock' North kicked their first goal of the game (with 5 minutes to go in the first half) from the goalsquare after a soft 50 against Brian, who was helping Barry out.

From the next clearance we swept it forward and Stack snapped a goal.

The spray that followed about how that was the way to kick your goals was the most vocal I've been at the footy in about 5 years. .

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Re: Liam Jones's Improvement

The spray that followed about how that was the way to kick your goals was the most vocal I've been at the footy in about 5 years. .

I fondly remember using words to that effect.

Great game.

Getting back to Jones, 2012 will be a huge test. Hopefully he doesn't get ahead of himself, by trying to take on too much. Focus on the basics - defensive pressure, leading to the right spots etc.

Expecting him to boot 30-40 goals might be a bit daunting, so hopefully we manage him OK mentally.

[stefoid]

Re: Liam Jones's Improvement

How do you mean?

I mean their criteria for judging when a mark is contested or not might be stricter. i.e. You might consider a mark taken under indirect pressure to be contested, or you might require that the opponent be making body contact.

[1eyedog]

Re: Liam Jones's Improvement

Galaxy Coleman took over 200 marks in 1992

I think Joel Bowden was very close to 200 in 2007

[1eyedog]

Re: Liam Jones's Improvement

Lot of people forget how good Lake is/was.

Indeed, he is elite and in my opinion was a better full back between 2008-2010 than Scarlett or anyone else.