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  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    #31
    Re: Is it time for Smorgon to step down

    Brought forward? There are 3 games left and no chance of finals. What was he suppose to do wait til the end of season, get the sack then and miss out on other jobs cos he waited. The club had all year to make this decision and Eade stated all year he wanted to stay.

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    • GVGjr
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 44622

      #32
      Re: Is it time for Smorgon to step down

      Originally posted by LongWait
      Eade's management demanded that the club either back or sack Eade immediately. What was the club supposed to do - cave in and abandon the review process because Eade's manager held a gun to their heads?
      They requested a quick decision not demanded it and the committee accommodated it.
      However, if the request would compromise the review the committee had an obligation to stick to their original plans for the review.

      They have, as they suggested, made the decision without linking it to the more comprehensive review and I'd be interested in why they ultimately wanted to go in a 'fresh direction'.

      Time will tell if they have got it right but I don't believe we had the right people in the drivers seat.
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      • Sedat
        Hall of Fame
        • Sep 2007
        • 11245

        #33
        Re: Is it time for Smorgon to step down

        Originally posted by LongWait
        Eade's management demanded that the club either back or sack Eade immediately. What was the club supposed to do - cave in and abandon the review process because Eade's manager held a gun to their heads?
        Do you know this for fact? Requesting something and demanding something are two completely different things. All season our CEO has stated that the process won't formally start until the completion of the season, with a full review to then be conducted. Now we have a situation whereby our senior coach is gone before this thorough review has even commenced. How thorough can it possibly be when the senior coach for the season is not even a part of it?

        I would have expected Garlick to tell Mullins to cool his heels for another 3 weeks, seeing as they were the precise parameters set out by our CEO in the first place. If then the request was demanded then the onus would have been on Rocket and his management to initiate something else.
        "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 44622

          #34
          Re: Is it time for Smorgon to step down

          Originally posted by Sedat
          Do you know this for fact? Requesting something and demanding something are two completely different things. All season our CEO has stated that the process won't formally start until the completion of the season, with a full review to then be conducted. Now we have a situation whereby our senior coach is gone before this thorough review has even commenced. How thorough can it possibly be when the senior coach for the season is not even a part of it?

          I would have expected Garlick to tell Mullins to cool his heels for another 3 weeks, seeing as they were the precise parameters set out by our CEO in the first place. If then the request was demanded then the onus would have been on Rocket and his management to initiate something else.

          Good call Sedat, Looks like we have very similar opinions on this.
          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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          • LongWait
            WOOF Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 936

            #35
            Re: Is it time for Smorgon to step down

            Originally posted by GVGjr
            They requested a quick decision not demanded it and the committee accommodated it.
            However, if the request would compromise the review the committee had an obligation to stick to their original plans for the review.

            They have, as they suggested, made the decision without linking it to the more comprehensive review and I'd be interested in why they ultimately wanted to go in a 'fresh direction'.

            Time will tell if they have got it right but I don't believe we had the right people in the drivers seat.
            In my view Eade's manager overplayed his hand. Dress it up however you like, but Eade obviously felt in a strong position and tried to force the club's decision. I'm glad the club didn't buckle.

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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              #36
              Re: Is it time for Smorgon to step down

              Originally posted by LongWait
              In my view Eade's manager overplayed his hand. Dress it up however you like, but Eade obviously felt in a strong position and tried to force the club's decision. I'm glad the club didn't buckle.
              Comedy thread now?

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              • LongWait
                WOOF Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 936

                #37
                Re: Is it time for Smorgon to step down

                Originally posted by Chops
                Comedy thread now?
                Because my views don't conform to yours they are humourous - is that your point?

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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 44622

                  #38
                  Re: Is it time for Smorgon to step down

                  Originally posted by LongWait
                  In my view Eade's manager overplayed his hand. Dress it up however you like, but Eade obviously felt in a strong position and tried to force the club's decision. I'm glad the club didn't buckle.
                  I think you are missing the point I'm trying to make.
                  The committee wanted to perform a more comprehensive review and the logical process is to assess the list, work out what was needed in the footy department going forward and then to determine if Eade was the right person. How did they get to number 3 when they have confirmed they haven't reviewed the other area's?
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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    #39
                    Re: Is it time for Smorgon to step down

                    Originally posted by LongWait
                    Because my views don't conform to yours they are humourous - is that your point?
                    No cos the club did exactly the opposite of what you said and buckle.

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                    • LongWait
                      WOOF Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 936

                      #40
                      Re: Is it time for Smorgon to step down

                      Originally posted by Chops
                      No cos the club did exactly the opposite of what you said and buckle.
                      You'll have to explain your point to me - I have no idea what you mean.

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                      • LostDoggy
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8307

                        #41
                        Re: Is it time for Smorgon to step down

                        Originally posted by LongWait
                        You'll have to explain your point to me - I have no idea what you mean.
                        The point has been explained already by sedat and gvgjr

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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 44622

                          #42
                          Re: Is it time for Smorgon to step down

                          Guys lets get it back on track please.
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                          • comrade
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 18027

                            #43
                            Re: Is it time for Smorgon to step down

                            Originally posted by Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                            expressed my sentiments exactly.
                            I'm not averse to tough decisions being made, such as changing a coach. However the job to boot Eade seems to me to be a decision made more for wanting to be seen to be making a tough decison than actually making a tough decision.
                            When you consider the resources or lack thereof around Eade, you wonder how just changing the coach is going to magically correct this.

                            When you then factor in Smorgon's statement about a refresh as opposed to a rebuild. it has made me question whether he is losing it, or does he think we the members are stupid and will swallow that horseshit?
                            Sacking Eade wasn't making the tough decision. Backing him in would have been the tough decision.

                            They went with the easy option, and in my opinion, the wrong one.

                            Adelaide and Melbourne must be pissing themselves at our stupidity.
                            Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                            • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8961

                              #44
                              Re: Is it time for Smorgon to step down

                              Originally posted by comrade
                              Sacking Eade wasn't making the tough decision. Backing him in would have been the tough decision.

                              They went with the easy option, and in my opinion, the wrong one.

                              Adelaide and Melbourne must be pissing themselves at our stupidity.
                              That's pretty much what I said comrade.

                              "However the job to boot Eade seems to me to be a decision made more for wanting to be seen to be making a tough decison than actually making a tough decision."

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                              • Sedat
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 11245

                                #45
                                Re: Is it time for Smorgon to step down

                                Originally posted by Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                                That's pretty much what I said comrade.

                                "However the job to boot Eade seems to me to be a decision made more for wanting to be seen to be making a tough decison than actually making a tough decision."
                                Faux tough is not tough, no matter how many heapings of spin you serve with it.
                                "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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