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  • the banker
    WOOF Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 453

    #31
    Re: Our next coach?

    Originally posted by mjp
    I don't know Laidley so I really have no idea...but I would think he wants to be in charge (and his record probably means he should get another shot at it).

    Laidley was Malthouse's key assistant during the 2 x gf losses to the Lion's all those years ago...Neeld has filled the same role this time. In terms of being 'ready' I would just think that Laidley is ahead of where Neeldy is. That said, Mark is the best I have ever seen - in any field - at being able to eloquently get across his point in a way that is able to be clearly understood by his audience. He really does 'sell' the message to the players (and everyone else) and I suspect if he gets into 'presentation' mode with a board he will be a good shot to get the gig.

    That said, he was 'out' in the first round of the PA job-hunt last year whereas Chris Scott - who apparently won over Geelong at his first meeting - went right down to the wire...so maybe his reluctance to talk himself 'up' will count against him?
    From what you have said, if the personalies worked, this could be a potent combination.
    WesternOval'61

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    • azabob
      Hall of Fame
      • Sep 2008
      • 15484

      #32
      Re: Our next coach?

      Originally posted by mjp

      That said, he was 'out' in the first round of the PA job-hunt last year whereas Chris Scott - who apparently won over Geelong at his first meeting - went right down to the wire...so maybe his reluctance to talk himself 'up' will count against him?
      Hopefully he has learnt from last time around, as in to talk himself up, and surely and phone call from a friend telling him to do it can't hurt?
      More of an In Bruges guy?

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      • azabob
        Hall of Fame
        • Sep 2008
        • 15484

        #33
        Re: Our next coach?

        I understand this is a huge appointment and the process must run its course.

        Hopefully we have our committee and process well and truly figured out by the time our season ends and we can begin the interviewing right away.

        On one hand I don't want the club to rush the decision, but on the other I don't want the club to muck around and possibly miss out on our preferred candidate.
        More of an In Bruges guy?

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        • azabob
          Hall of Fame
          • Sep 2008
          • 15484

          #34
          Re: Our next coach?

          With Leon Cameron most people believe he will be our next senior coach.

          What I am interested in is wonder if Melbourne and Adelaide will approach him to interview for their coaching positions?
          More of an In Bruges guy?

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          • Desipura
            WOOF Member
            • Mar 2008
            • 4344

            #35
            Re: Our next coach?

            Originally posted by mjp
            I don't know Laidley so I really have no idea...but I would think he wants to be in charge (and his record probably means he should get another shot at it).

            Laidley was Malthouse's key assistant during the 2 x gf losses to the Lion's all those years ago...Neeld has filled the same role this time. In terms of being 'ready' I would just think that Laidley is ahead of where Neeldy is. That said, Mark is the best I have ever seen - in any field - at being able to eloquently get across his point in a way that is able to be clearly understood by his audience. He really does 'sell' the message to the players (and everyone else) and I suspect if he gets into 'presentation' mode with a board he will be a good shot to get the gig.

            That said, he was 'out' in the first round of the PA job-hunt last year whereas Chris Scott - who apparently won over Geelong at his first meeting - went right down to the wire...so maybe his reluctance to talk himself 'up' will count against him?
            I think this is the exact reason why they will not go for Laidley, too similar to Eade. Also he is not very media savvy, in fact he is annoying!

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            • Remi Moses
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2009
              • 14785

              #36
              Re: Our next coach?

              Laidley is way to intense for mine. I'd like Burns but not sure he's applying.
              Honestly who bloody knows

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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                #37
                Re: Our next coach?

                I can't remember who it was but Fox sports were saying earlier in the week that Neeld may get to choose the club he goes to and not the other way around, such a strong contender he is believed to be.

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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 45577

                  #38
                  Re: Our next coach?

                  I think there are a number of good candidates however, the club is caught between appointing an inexperienced coach and being seen as watching the dollars (Neeld, Richardson etc) or appointing an experienced coach (M.Williams, Malthouse) and actually having to spend the dollars. The sub-committee has a hard job selling one of those and an even harder one financing the other option.

                  That's why I see the merit in what MJP is saying and that means Laidley becomes a contender.
                  - He has a reputation of being a good match day coach.
                  - He will work for a non extravagant wage just to get back to Victoria.
                  - He will be a far more savvy people manager this time around.

                  The bonus for the sub-committee with appointing someone like Laidley is that they are neither spending a fortune or from a media or fans perspective seen as penny pinching.

                  How should Laidley best pitch his credentials?
                  I'd focus on the upside of the list (like the untapped potential of Jones, Grant and Howard etc) and portray that the list imbalances can quickly be rectified. He can't be too negative or over the top but if he articulates how under his leadership the midfield will become more accountable then it can become a compelling message.

                  I'm not convinced he is a great candidate but I think he could be close to what they are looking for.
                  Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                  • Sedat
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 11605

                    #39
                    Re: Our next coach?

                    From memory, Laidley interviewed outstandingly way back in 2002 when Rohde won the gig. He was a bit of an after-thought but impressed the Bulldogs hierarchy during the interview process.

                    Interesting candidate that doesn't fall in either the rookie or veteran camp.
                    "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                    • KT31
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 5455

                      #40
                      Re: Our next coach?

                      Don't think Laidley would be a good option, would prefer to see a Grand final winning coach.
                      Not to sure when (thinking Joyce then back to Charlie) we had a coach with a flag under his belt pass his knowledge and experience onto our players and club.
                      Although I am not sure we have the budget for it.
                      It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 45577

                        #41
                        Re: Our next coach?

                        Originally posted by KT31
                        Don't think Laidley would be a good option, would prefer to see a Grand final winning coach.
                        Not to sure when (thinking Joyce then back to Charlie) we had a coach with a flag under his belt pass his knowledge and experience onto our players and club.
                        Although I am not sure we have the budget for it.

                        What don't you like about Laidley and who is the GF coach you are thinking of?
                        Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                        • Ghost Dog
                          WOOF Member
                          • May 2010
                          • 9404

                          #42
                          Re: Our next coach?

                          North Melb supporters I talked to over the years disliked Laidly. ( The ones I talked to saw him as being aloof, and not forthcoming at social events. This doesn't reflect on his ability as a coach mind you.

                          Don't want anyone from Port coaching our club thanks very much.
                          You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                          • GVGjr
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 45577

                            #43
                            Re: Our next coach?

                            Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                            North Melb supporters I talked to over the years disliked Laidly. ( The ones I talked to saw him as being aloof, and not forthcoming at social events. This doesn't reflect on his ability as a coach mind you
                            Should be better the 2nd time around though. He will heave learned a lot of lesson how to better project himself to the fans and the media.
                            Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                            • ledge
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 14554

                              #44
                              Re: Our next coach?

                              Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                              North Melb supporters I talked to over the years disliked Laidly. ( The ones I talked to saw him as being aloof, and not forthcoming at social events. This doesn't reflect on his ability as a coach mind you.

                              Don't want anyone from Port coaching our club thanks very much.
                              You say a reason why you dont think he should be a coach but then reply with it doesnt reflect on his coaching abillity?
                              Bring back the biff

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                              • KT31
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jul 2008
                                • 5455

                                #45
                                Re: Our next coach?

                                Originally posted by GVGjr
                                What don't you like about Laidley and who is the GF coach you are thinking of?
                                May just be his demeanour, but think he tended to make some irrational decisions when under pressure, I also had a couple of mates tied up with Port when he coached North and they have mentioned a couple of things to me.
                                Its unrealistic to have a grand final winning coach but think Malthouse would be a nice fit.
                                It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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