Our next coach?

[GVGjr]

Re: Our next coach?

No one is saying Leon is a bad coach, but how is it a 'change'? After Smorgon's "it's Mabo, the constitution, it's the vibe" nonsense to justify getting rid of the most successful coach in our modern history, he just goes and hires that coach's old assistant?

I think most people respect Leon but getting rid of Eade and replacing him with Cameron isn't a big change at all and it's not evident how that will be an improvement on what we previously had.

My concerns are:
- He's only had 12 months away from us so I doubt he's improved that much at the Hawks
- He's an average communicator who might struggle to represent the club that well with the media, sponsors, the coteries and the fans and we really need the coach to be strong in this area as well.
- He's not a new voice to the playing group which I now feel they need.

These can be addressed by putting other people into support roles but I wonder if we will.

[Bornadog]

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I think most people respect Leon but getting rid of Eade and replacing him with Cameron isn't a big change at all and it's not evident how that will be an improvement on what we previously had.

My concerns are:
- He's only had 12 months away from us so I doubt he's improved that much at the Hawks
- He's an average communicator who might struggle to represent the club that well with the media, sponsors, the coteries and the fans and we really need the coach to be strong in this area as well.
- He's not a new voice to the playing group which I now feel they need.

These can be addressed by putting other people into support roles but I wonder if we will.

I have been told by a good source that Leon is confident in getting the job. I agree with you on your assessment, particularly his ability to communicate. Our last two coaches were good at communicating with the media and we have been rarely out of the news (all good stuff written about our players and the club)

[LongWait]

Re: Our next coach?

Good Grief Leon's $1.16
Hope people on here Give Cameron a chance,as nobody could ascertain whether it's a good selection or not.

It doesn't appear that the Eade devotees will give the new coach any slack no matter who they are.

[GVGjr]

Re: Our next coach?

It doesn't appear that the Eade devotees will give the new coach any slack no matter who they are.

I can't see anything in the thread to suggest that your comment is accurate.
What are you basing that on?

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Our next coach?

Opened at $1.25 so not all that surprising.

No one is saying Leon is a bad coach, but how is it a 'change'? After Smorgon's "it's Mabo, the constitution, it's the vibe" nonsense to justify getting rid of the most successful coach in our modern history, he just goes and hires that coach's old assistant?

It's not just nonsensical, it's insulting.

The problem with the terrible messaging, and the lack thereof since (how are they going to justify this?) Leon's on a hiding to nothing. If he does well everyone will just say that it's the list and Eade would have done the same (a la Thompson and Worsfold) if we hadn't gotten impatient, and if he has horrendous years as we bottom out and rebuild, his reputation would be shot and when he gets the chop he won't get another senior job.

The most likely outcome is that we'll fight out 9-12th next year alongside the likes of North and Richmond, so I guess we should all get prepared for half a decade of 'meh'-ness along with North supporters.

The VIBE indeed. Why was Eade Sacked? It was his 'vibe'. Absolute joke unless they bite the bullet and take a gamble on an outsider from the club or at least Someone who can bring something new to the table.

[Desipura]

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I think most people respect Leon but getting rid of Eade and replacing him with Cameron isn't a big change at all and it's not evident how that will be an improvement on what we previously had.

My concerns are:
- He's only had 12 months away from us so I doubt he's improved that much at the Hawks
- He's an average communicator who might struggle to represent the club that well with the media, sponsors, the coteries and the fans and we really need the coach to be strong in this area as well.
- He's not a new voice to the playing group which I now feel they need.

These can be addressed by putting other people into support roles but I wonder if we will.

I am told he communicates well with the players which is equally as important. If he can get the players to play for him, that is a good start.
Also a more modern game is something he may be able to provide as opposed to Eade .

[GVGjr]

Re: Our next coach?

I am told he communicates well with the players which is equally as important. If he can get the players to play for him, that is a good start.
Also a more modern game is something he may be able to provide as opposed to Eade .

He had a big say in the game plan at the Dogs and I wonder if 12 months away will give him a better overview or not. As for being good with the players, I've heard the same but I wonder if our group now needs a new voice. I'd almost bet on the fact that he has the job but I still think Cameron for Eade isn't a big change.

[Desipura]

Re: Our next coach?

He had a big say in the game plan at the Dogs and I wonder if 12 months away will give him a better overview or not. As for being good with the players, I've heard the same but I wonder if our group now needs a new voice. I'd almost bet on the fact that he has the job but I still think Cameron for Eade isn't a big change.

Being an Assistant, you are basically working within the requirements that the coach has implemented, ie Rocket says I want this style," go away and work out the best way of playing this style".
Leon may have a totally different game plan when/ if he is appointed coach.

[Missing Dog]

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I have seen first hand Leon in Action and he is very impressive very hard and gets his point acroos.
I think he speaks quite well so from a media side of things i cant see that as being a issue.
Longmire at Sydney has seemed to work okay so i dont see why people thinnk Eade for Cameron isnt going to be a Good refresh.

[LongWait]

Re: Our next coach?

I can't see anything in the thread to suggest that your comment is accurate.
What are you basing that on?

I know you can't. Perhaps that is the point.

[ledge]

Re: Our next coach?

I am a big Eade fan and sad to see him go but thats footy and I will be behind our next coach, its what happens as our coach in the coming years that will say if he is good or bad.

[AndrewP6]

Re: Our next coach?

I have seen first hand Leon in Action and he is very impressive very hard and gets his point acroos.
I think he speaks quite well so from a media side of things i cant see that as being a issue.
Longmire at Sydney has seemed to work okay so i dont see why people thinnk Eade for Cameron isnt going to be a Good refresh.

Because he's only been away a year and was with us for a stretch before that

[Bulldog Revolution]

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I don't have a problem if its Cameron but I'd be more pleased if he was flanked by Neil Craig as a senior assistant, and or some other high profile senior assistant

I just worry that if the only football department change we make is Cameron then we aren't going to fix the problems and improve

Im not concerned if Cameron is not an instant media superstar, my take is that coaches develop those skills over time

[Guest]

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He struggles to articulate ideas well in a presentation. Sadly if you are the best coach, tactician, media performer etc but can't push the mouse at the right time and your PowerPoint is a bit dodgy you will be passed over.

[Bornadog]

Re: Our next coach?

I know you can't. Perhaps that is the point.

I think your wrong there and you are not getting the point. Some of us want a fresh start ie an outsider who has been an assistant with a successful club and knows nothing about our club.

Sanderson, Burns, Hinkley, McCartney all are highly respected, as is Leon. Leon is too close to us and has only been away 12 months or so.