Our next coach?

[EasternWest]

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From wikipedia
Sacchi never played football professionally, and before becoming a coach he was a shoe salesman. This led to his famous quote to the ones that questioned his qualifications: "I never realised that in order to become a jockey you have to have been a horse first".

He went on to win Italian, european and intercontineal championships Missed a World Cup title on penalties.

Heh. That's a great quote. Imagine how sick he must be of hearing the question that led to it.

[LostDoggy]

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Again you are talking about playing not coaching.

Not much gets by you, Chops!

When I answer the question, 'How many AFL games did Neil Craig play?', I most certainly am talking about playing not coaching.

As for the wider conversation, I think a few of us had interesting things to say in this thread yesterday about whether playing experience is essential for an AFL senior coach.

I'm not sure if you read it.

I'll say again; when selecting our next coach, I'd prefer our committee to focus on the empirical evidence rather than theories out of sports science or the goings on in other sports.

[Bulldog4life]

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http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/mccartney-the-selfmade-coach-20110430-1e25z.html

Good article on Brendan McCartney.

[LostDoggy]

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Good article on Brendan McCartney.

I'd forgotten that he walked out on his contract at Geelong after only recently signing for a further three years. He really likes to be close to Bomber.

Maybe he can be a senior coach after all.

Walking out on contracts is in vogue right now.

[Hotdog60]

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Sounds like he won't take crap so maybe a strong influence that the dogs need.

[LostDoggy]

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Not sure I am convinced about a bloke that doesnt have any AFL playing experience though.

[Bulldog Revolution]

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There seem to me to be 3 viable options

1) Cameron

2) McCartney

3) McCartney and Sanderson

[LostDoggy]

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Not sure I am convinced about a bloke that doesnt have any AFL playing experience though.

I'd be worried if we want him to play but we want him to coach.

[LongWait]

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I'd be worried if we want him to play but we want him to coach.

Agree. I don't see his lack of AFL playing experience as a major problem.

[1eyedog]

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Monday?

Really? Was that a set date or are we simply in a position now to decide do you know?

[GVGjr]

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Agree. I don't see his lack of AFL playing experience as a major problem.

He's been around the system for ages so it's no barrier

[Rocco Jones]

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I don't want to take this on too much of a sociological tangent but Australian society is very risk free/conservative/moderate. Despite being well and truly a leftie I don't mean that as an insult, it's helped make us so stable/secure.

Other sports in other countries, particularly have no issues with coaches with no playing experience. I think footy reflects our country a bit and we will only go down that path once it's super clear from other codes which I believe it is now with some fantastic non-playing background coaches in soccer.

Teaching is an example I like to use (as with everything!). You don't need to be a genius in your field to teach others, in fact often it is destructive as it comes so natural you don't understand how it's learnt. The best teachers are those who have adequate knowledge as a base but importantly the ability to understand how different people learn.

[LostDoggy]

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Great post Rocco.

However, all this discussion is pointless anyway.

The entire process was fait accompli. It's Leon's job to lose, which, since we were never in with a chance with either Neeld or Burns (clearly superior choices if we're looking for a 'change', confirmed by Adelaide and Melbourne snapping them up quicksmart -- were either of them even interested in Leon?), is probably the best outcome we could have hoped for.

We're the opposite of what Freo have done. Instead of accelerating process in order to move quickly on an unexpected choice, we've gone through a sham of a process at glacial speed to confirm a predictable outcome everyone knew weeks ago.

[Remi Moses]

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Good Grief Leon's $1.16
Hope people on here Give Cameron a chance,as nobody could ascertain whether it's a good selection or not.

[LostDoggy]

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Good Grief Leon's $1.16
Hope people on here Give Cameron a chance,as nobody could ascertain whether it's a good selection or not.

Opened at $1.25 so not all that surprising.

No one is saying Leon is a bad coach, but how is it a 'change'? After Smorgon's "it's Mabo, the constitution, it's the vibe" nonsense to justify getting rid of the most successful coach in our modern history, he just goes and hires that coach's old assistant?

It's not just nonsensical, it's insulting.

The problem with the terrible messaging, and the lack thereof since (how are they going to justify this?) Leon's on a hiding to nothing. If he does well everyone will just say that it's the list and Eade would have done the same (a la Thompson and Worsfold) if we hadn't gotten impatient, and if he has horrendous years as we bottom out and rebuild, his reputation would be shot and when he gets the chop he won't get another senior job.

The most likely outcome is that we'll fight out 9-12th next year alongside the likes of North and Richmond, so I guess we should all get prepared for half a decade of 'meh'-ness along with North supporters.