Round #23 Match Committee

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  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    #46
    Re: Round #23 Match Committee

    What would you guys prefer as a general approach: 1) try to limit the damage and play as defensively as we can, or 2) go hell for leather and just give it a good crack and put whatever happens down to experience either way,

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    • stefoid
      Senior Player
      • Dec 2009
      • 1846

      #47
      Re: Round #23 Match Committee

      Originally posted by LongWait
      I'd like to see Jones spend some time on Buddy: for the learning it should bring him more than anything else. Doesn't matter what the result of the game is. We need to use every opportunity to teach the young players what it takes to succeed at AFL level.
      I very much doubt we'll win, but Id rather try and win the game by winning the ball in the middle and kicking to our usual forwads >> end up with a biugger score than the hawks.

      As opposed to going in with a reactive mindset of putting one of our forwards in defence trying to limit the damage.

      Put a defender on buddy to educate the defender, not a forward.

      (edit, should have read the entire thread before posting. I got with option 2 above, obviously)

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      • LongWait
        WOOF Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 938

        #48
        Re: Round #23 Match Committee

        Originally posted by stefoid
        I very much doubt we'll win, but Id rather try and win the game by winning the ball in the middle and kicking to our usual forwads >> end up with a biugger score than the hawks.

        As opposed to going in with a reactive mindset of putting one of our forwards in defence trying to limit the damage.

        Put a defender on buddy to educate the defender, not a forward.

        (edit, should have read the entire thread before posting. I got with option 2 above, obviously)
        I'm not trying to turn Jones into a defender - just think it would be good for his development to spend a little time on Buddy - maybe only 20 minutes or a quarter would be enough to give him a taste.

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        • The Coon Dog
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jan 2007
          • 7579

          #49
          Re: Round #23 Match Committee

          Originally posted by LongWait
          I'm not trying to turn Jones into a defender - just think it would be good for his development to spend a little time on Buddy - maybe only 20 minutes or a quarter would be enough to give him a taste.
          Or the fright of his life!
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          • LongWait
            WOOF Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 938

            #50
            Re: Round #23 Match Committee

            Originally posted by The Coon Dog
            Or the fright of his life!
            That's the idea TCD!

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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 44520

              #51
              Re: Round #23 Match Committee

              Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
              I'd like to see us develop Wood as a midfielder for next year. Obviously we can't do that right now, but given the state of our list and his potential, I think it's something we should try. We aren't going to be able to plug every hole, but let's try and build a young midfield together. Wood's ability to win a contest, break away from opponents with strength and speed, and carry the football are traits that could see him become a quality midfielder. It'd really help out Griffen who is clearly struggling withut Cooney.
              I like this idea a lot.
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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 66503

                #52
                Re: Round #23 Match Committee

                Originally posted by LongWait
                I'm not trying to turn Jones into a defender - just think it would be good for his development to spend a little time on Buddy - maybe only 20 minutes or a quarter would be enough to give him a taste.
                I think its a smart move, he can see what a real FF/CHF should be doing and we don't have much choice anyway so go with a left field. Stick Grant at CHF and tell him to try and own this role.
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                • LongWait
                  WOOF Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 938

                  #53
                  Re: Round #23 Match Committee

                  Originally posted by bornadog
                  I think its a smart move, he can see what a real FF/CHF should be doing and we don't have much choice anyway so go with a left field. Stick Grant at CHF and tell him to try and own this role.
                  We'll never get a better opportunity to experiment and deliberately throw players out of their comfort zones than during the next two games. Magnificent learning opportunity which I hope we take advantage of.

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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 44520

                    #54
                    Re: Round #23 Match Committee

                    Originally posted by LongWait
                    I'd like to see Jones spend some time on Buddy: for the learning it should bring him more than anything else. Doesn't matter what the result of the game is. We need to use every opportunity to teach the young players what it takes to succeed at AFL level.

                    I see the merit in this. Actually I wanted him to be given a spell as a key defender during the NAB Cup campaign just to give him more exposure to different tasks.
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                    • Ghost Dog
                      WOOF Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 9404

                      #55
                      Re: Round #23 Match Committee

                      That's got to be a lesson for Liam right there, just to experience what it's going to take to be elite. Good suggestion.
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                      • LostDoggy
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8307

                        #56
                        Re: Round #23 Match Committee

                        Originally posted by GVGjr
                        I see the merit in this. Actually I wanted him to be given a spell as a key defender during the NAB Cup campaign just to give him more exposure to different tasks.
                        So we're not trying to score anymore? Jones's best value is in his ability to clunk marks and link the game across half-forward. When we start throwing our best KPFs back in some vain hope of quelling an opposition player but are too afraid to let a KPB do his job .. hey, I guess we're 'experimenting' for draft pick positions now aren't we.

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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 66503

                          #57
                          Re: Round #23 Match Committee

                          Originally posted by Lantern
                          So we're not trying to score anymore? Jones's best value is in his ability to clunk marks and link the game across half-forward. When we start throwing our best KPFs back in some vain hope of quelling an opposition player but are too afraid to let a KPB do his job .. hey, I guess we're 'experimenting' for draft pick positions now aren't we.
                          Lantern, the guy is not scoring anyway and has lot to learn. He barely averages 10 disposals a game. He is a good mark but needs to learn about positioning himself and becoming a danger forward. Who better than the best in the business to learn from. It will also help his defensive skills.
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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            #58
                            Re: Round #23 Match Committee

                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            Lantern, the guy is not scoring anyway and has lot to learn. He barely averages 10 disposals a game. He is a good mark but needs to learn about positioning himself and becoming a danger forward. Who better than the best in the business to learn from. It will also help his defensive skills.
                            All good points.. I guess I'm just not sure he'll learn that much from getting 10 goals kicked on him.

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 66503

                              #59
                              Re: Round #23 Match Committee

                              Originally posted by Lantern
                              All good points.. I guess I'm just not sure he'll learn that much from getting 10 goals kicked on him.
                              Maybe it will be 15
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                              • GVGjr
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 44520

                                #60
                                Re: Round #23 Match Committee

                                Originally posted by Lantern
                                So we're not trying to score anymore? Jones's best value is in his ability to clunk marks and link the game across half-forward. When we start throwing our best KPFs back in some vain hope of quelling an opposition player but are too afraid to let a KPB do his job .. hey, I guess we're 'experimenting' for draft pick positions now aren't we.
                                Not sure I'm drawing the same bow as you Lantern. I said I could see the merit in the suggestion and I mentioned I had a similar view before the start of the season in the NAB cup games. Whilst I see him as a forward it could still be a good learning curve for him.
                                You know he was used for a spell in the ruck during the season?
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