Expect 3 years of misery

[Ozza]

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Hey Tiller is an A grader....in the SANFL

I very much doubt Tiller is an A Grader in the SANFL!

[Greystache]

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I very much doubt Tiller is an A Grader in the SANFL!

There's a thread on him on the State board.

http://www.woof.net.au/forum/showthread.php?t=8937

[ledge]

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No it's not, that doesn't make any sense

Until a player has shown the ability to do so it's rediculous to assume they'll all become A graders. By definition most players don't develop into A grade players.

99.9% of players are A graders in the lower grade its how they get to the AFL, its if they can get up one more notch is the question and you cant judge on one broken season getting the body and mind right, sadly some people do.
A variety of other things also come into it,moving from home, coaches style , where they play them, are they happy?
18 years of age is a hell of a lot to adjust to.
To me its ridiculous to assume they wont be.
One year is no way to judge a player in my opinion I also think its the AFLs as you must serve 2 years minimum.

[Greystache]

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99.9% of players are A graders in the lower grade its how they get to the AFL, its if they can get up one more notch is the question and you cant judge on one broken season getting the body and mind right, sadly some people do.
A variety of other things also come into it,moving from home, coaches style , where they play them, are they happy?
18 years of age is a hell of a lot to adjust to.
To me its ridiculous to assume they wont be.
One year is no way to judge a player in my opinion I also think its the AFLs as you must serve 2 years minimum.

I don't think I can find the words to even begin with this post....

[Hotdog60]

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Don't worry if one of our young players loks like being an A grader GWS will get them next year.

[Sockeye Salmon]

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Don't worry if one of our young players loks like being an A grader GWS will get them next year.

No they won't, they aren't allowed.

Free agency will come in, Carlton will take someone instead

[Dancin' Douggy]

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He started his career in 2004 and the first half of the year he was poor but by the end of the year, the last three games he racked up 28 disposals, 25 and 22 and started showing what a gun he was going to be. Yes his body shape was fat, but he worked on that after his first preseason at the end of 2004 into 2005 season.

In 2004 he was ranked 4th amongst rising stars in handballs, disposals, and goals kicked.

I just love the line " his body shape was fat".

[Bornadog]

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And Libber, Dahlhaus, Tutt have had better starts but are written off by some as not going to be A graders, go figure.
I am not saying they will or wont be I am just putting forward people write off players before their career has even started.
You dont have to give me stats on Cooney my point was some people wrote him off but he has won a Brownlow and is a good footballer.

Heres what I found over the last year on Woof, at the end of last year and the start of this year team is going well, look how rosey our future is with all these young guns coming in, now we had a bad year all our young guns are good ordinary footballers?

See a pattern? Within a year they arent guns and they only got to play a few games.
I am certainly looking glass half full with talent, others go totally empty in 6 months.

I mostly agree, all I am saying is Cooney was the number one draft pick so people saw his talent before he became an AFL A Grader. Of the young guys we have, none of them are number one draft picks, so at this stage we don't really know if they will turn out to be an A Grader.

[GVGjr]

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I can't believe everyone on here predicting all this doom and gloom....
Can anyone on here honestly say that they predicted West Coast to finish top 4 this year...

[ledge]

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I am with you Woody ,irks me how our own fans write us off and also write off individual players who are just coming through.
I for one am here to back my team and the players.

[LostDoggy]

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I am with you Woody ,irks me how our own fans write us off and also write off individual players who are just coming through.
I for one am here to back my team and the players.

I'm going with the reality we are consigned to 2-3 year of hard labour as supporters. It's always fun to find the future stars in these troughs though so there's still a reason to turn up each week. I'm also looking forward to seeing what we can pick up in the 2012 draft assuming we bottom out (bottom 4-6) next year which seems likely.

[Maddog37]

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We had a totally crap year with injuries etc yet still nearly figured in finals. Bottoming out would seem a fairly unlikely outcome. We lose Baz and Ward and Huddo. Lake may be back Coon may have more impact and a few kids may improve. Maybe a better year with injuries overall.

Gilbee and Shaggy may have better years form wise as well. Lots of variables and I am happy to enjoy the ride and see how it unfolds.

[comrade]

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We had a totally crap year with injuries etc yet still nearly figured in finals. Bottoming out would seem a fairly unlikely outcome. We lose Baz and Ward and Huddo. Lake may be back Coon may have more impact and a few kids may improve. Maybe a better year with injuries overall.

Gilbee and Shaggy may have better years form wise as well. Lots of variables and I am happy to enjoy the ride and see how it unfolds.

Gilbee and Shaggy shouldn't even be on the list next year.

[bold-dogg]

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Take Cooney and Griff out of the equation as anybody would have recruited them, what are we left with in that age group? And the real question is who was the great recruiter over that period?