Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

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  • AndrewP6
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2009
    • 8142

    Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

    Originally posted by Swoop
    I know I'm in the minority but sometimes we forget that we're talking about a 21 year old boy who with one decision has the ability to guarantee his financial future.
    One thing about all this that irks me is people seemingly justifying this by referring to him as a 'kid' or the like. Give me a break, he's no kid. 21 yrs old is no 'boy'. He's a grown (young) man. A money-obsessed one, so it seems.

    That's not a dig at you, by the way.
    [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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    • AndrewP6
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2009
      • 8142

      Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

      Originally posted by Rocco Jones
      Good analogy SS.

      Peopl are saying 'would you leave for $500k more per year'. It is so relative to what you're earning.

      I would switch over for $500k extra but that would take me from an average income earner to a very, very, very rich man. For Callan it's very, very, very rich vs very, very, very, very, very rich.
      Well put.
      [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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      • Missing Dog
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8501

        Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

        Originally posted by Ghost Dog
        Are you so sure that he will be better off up there? It's not what you make that counts, it's a complicated set of factors that contribute to 'wealth'. Remains to be seen if he is actually 'better off' in this deal.
        I actually don't care for his decision either way, the club is bigger than the individual and we'll move on as will he. In terms of his own football development he would probably be better suited to stay with us but the mere point I'm trying to make is that I don't begrudge the decision and I'm not prepared to slag Ward off based on a decision he made that most unbiased people would say is an even money bet.

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        • Ghost Dog
          WOOF Member
          • May 2010
          • 9404

          Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

          Originally posted by Swoop
          I actually don't care for his decision either way, the club is bigger than the individual and we'll move on as will he. In terms of his own football development he would probably be better suited to stay with us but the mere point I'm trying to make is that I don't begrudge the decision and I'm not prepared to slag Ward off based on a decision he made that most unbiased people would say is an even money bet.
          How are ya swoop. By the way, your avatar is one of my favs on woof. Ahh bryl cream ^_^


          Don't care about his choice?
          Hell I do. Ward earmarked to be the future captain of our club. A local boy. A fantastic player. I care.
          It's fine to say " the club is bigger than the individual" but that's really just passing it off as a minor event. In the long term, yes, it will be. However, for now, people are ticked off about it. Which is good. If nobody cared, that would be odd.

          I'm not slagging off Ward. I think most posters don't wish to assassinate his character, and somebody said " Oh come on, GWS, it's not the hitler youth" which was really really funny. Idon't begrudge him in the sense of wanting to find a better opportunity.

          It is however very frustrating in the sense of, as stated above, I don't think he will be better off in the long run. Many others seem to agree ( Luke Darcy wrote an excellent article on loyalty in theAGE yesterday ), Daisy Thomas, Ryan Griffen, Selwood and others.
          Last edited by Ghost Dog; 03-09-2011, 07:54 AM.
          You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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          • Grantysghost
            Bouncing Strong
            • Apr 2010
            • 18991

            Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

            You forget that you have the ability to do your job for as long as you like and have the option of chasing dollars later in life if your circumstances or mindset changes. I understand people's decisions for remaining loyal and I admire those who accept significantly less than they could earn elsewhere but at the same time I do not begrudge anyone for taking up the offer or think any less of the. I know I'm in the minority but sometimes we forget that we're talking about a 21 year old boy who with one decision has the ability to guarantee his financial future.

            Good luck to him.
            So Callan loses the ability to earn money when he stops playing professional sport? These guys are setup well post footy these days... Look at Scott Lucas, wasn't even considered to be Bombers captain but now runs Pheonix management (flying start). I agree with you to a point, but potentially he could have a long career post footy also.
            BT COME BACK!​

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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

              Originally posted by Grantysghost
              So Callan loses the ability to earn money when he stops playing professional sport? These guys are setup well post footy these days... Look at Scott Lucas, wasn't even considered to be Bombers captain but now runs Pheonix management (flying start). I agree with you to a point, but potentially he could have a long career post footy also.
              Two big words to contemplate? unfortunately post career is not written into a playing contract otherwise his decision might be a little easier. Not every person that plays AFL will get a job in the media or some successful organization, a lot have to fend for themselves. I'm sure if he is switched on enough he can make the most out of whatever he makes, where ever he makes it. But that is a big gamble for a 21yo, thinking things will just happen.

              Big choice for the lad? Do I become a Grant or a Brown?

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              • gohardorgohome
                WOOF Member
                • Nov 2007
                • 360

                Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

                Wards situation is the AFL version of a tradie going to work remotely in the mining industry. You will be working in an in hospitable environment to ensure your financial future.

                You have to remember that he was DRAFTED to play at the bulldogs. We choose to support the club.

                We look like getting two first round draft picks as compensation.

                I don't like whole idea however we all need to get on with it whatever way it goes. The extra money should make like a lot easier for Ward especially after his footy career . Footy does not last forever and you need to get whatever you can out of it. It's very difficult for AFL player to study or obtain a trade whilst they are in the system.

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                • Dancin' Douggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 2876

                  Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

                  I just feel shit about the whole damn thing

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                  • W W Biscuit
                    Rookie List
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 142

                    Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

                    Originally posted by gohardorgohome
                    Wards situation is the AFL version of a tradie going to work remotely in the mining industry. You will be working in an in hospitable environment to ensure your financial future.

                    You have to remember that he was DRAFTED to play at the bulldogs. We choose to support the club.

                    We look like getting two first round draft picks as compensation.

                    I don't like whole idea however we all need to get on with it whatever way it goes. The extra money should make like a lot easier for Ward especially after his footy career . Footy does not last forever and you need to get whatever you can out of it. It's very difficult for AFL player to study or obtain a trade whilst they are in the system.
                    Actually, the AFLPA Player Development Program works in partnership with the Elite Athlete Friendly University Program, which is designed to make it as easy as possible for players to undertake tertiary education during their AFL careers. Also, and this is a HUGE also, AFL players are able to access subsidies that will cover the entire cost of whichever university or TAFE course they choose. Free education.

                    Like so many others, I am still paying off my HECS ten years down the track. Like so many others, I also juggled full-time study and part-time work. Like so many others, I lived not that far above the breadline for the few years that it took to get my qualification. I do not buy the argument that AFL players need to be mercenaries simply because they have a small window within which to build a career. Every player in the system is able to take advantage of an absolutely outstanding opportunity to retrain. Kudos to the AFLPA - their clients receive rockstar treatment relative to most industries. For God's sake, I work in a field where you have to buy your own stationary and pay for tea and coffee!

                    Callan Ward has a once-in-a-lifetime chance to be filthy rich by average standards. That IS what it IS. If he elected not to go, I'm sure that his financial future and ongoing potential to be a part of the labour force would not be compromised.
                    Crumbs!

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                    • ledge
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 14348

                      Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

                      Originally posted by W W Biscuit
                      Actually, the AFLPA Player Development Program works in partnership with the Elite Athlete Friendly University Program, which is designed to make it as easy as possible for players to undertake tertiary education during their AFL careers. Also, and this is a HUGE also, AFL players are able to access subsidies that will cover the entire cost of whichever university or TAFE course they choose. Free education.

                      Like so many others, I am still paying off my HECS ten years down the track. Like so many others, I also juggled full-time study and part-time work. Like so many others, I lived not that far above the breadline for the few years that it took to get my qualification. I do not buy the argument that AFL players need to be mercenaries simply because they have a small window within which to build a career. Every player in the system is able to take advantage of an absolutely outstanding opportunity to retrain. Kudos to the AFLPA - their clients receive rockstar treatment relative to most industries. For God's sake, I work in a field where you have to buy your own stationary and pay for tea and coffee!

                      Callan Ward has a once-in-a-lifetime chance to be filthy rich by average standards. That IS what it IS. If he elected not to go, I'm sure that his financial future and ongoing potential to be a part of the labour force would not be compromised.
                      It doesnt mean he is taking them up though, he might be looking at earning as much as possible investing and living off the profit.
                      Bring back the biff

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                      • Missing Dog
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8501

                        Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

                        Originally posted by ledge
                        It doesnt mean he is taking them up though, he might be looking at earning as much as possible investing and living off the profit.
                        From my understanding 'Cement Head' is hardly the sharpest tool in the shed so that may be a realistic thought process.

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                        • azabob
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 15335

                          Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

                          On BF apparently we have offered Ward a five year deal. Anyone else hear this?
                          More of an In Bruges guy?

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                          • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8971

                            Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

                            Originally posted by azabob
                            On BF apparently we have offered Ward a five year deal. Anyone else hear this?
                            Yeah Fantasia spoke on SEN today.
                            I'm not getting my hopes up. I think it's more a case of a club trying to say to it's fan's that they've done everything possible to keep him and perhaps try to shut down supporters questioning our efforts to retain him.

                            I would much rather the club not say anymore until he makes an announcement on his future, rather than perhaps raising fans hopes, quite possibly unnecessarily

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                            • azabob
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 15335

                              Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

                              Originally posted by Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                              Yeah Fantasia spoke on SEN today.
                              I'm not getting my hopes up. I think it's more a case of a club trying to say to it's fan's that they've done everything possible to keep him and perhaps try to shut down supporters questioning our efforts to retain him.

                              I would much rather the club not say anymore until he makes an announcement on his future, rather than perhaps raising fans hopes, quite possibly unnecessarily
                              Thanks. Agree with what you have said.
                              More of an In Bruges guy?

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                              • Hotdog60
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 5918

                                Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

                                Also said they tried to get him to sign up at the start of the season.
                                Don't piss off old people
                                The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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