Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

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  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

    Originally posted by The Rocket
    There's a salary cap.

    We pay 100% of it each year.

    Our facilities are excellent.

    It's not the 1970s anymore.
    How about third party deals? I'm sick of being on the rough end of these deals it's time we bear our teeth

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    • The Coon Dog
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 7579

      Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

      Originally posted by elephant_man
      How about third party deals? I'm sick of being on the rough end of these deals it's time we bear our teeth
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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

        I think the 'no one could turn down the money' argument is an insult to the men who actually have.

        Guys like Kreuzer, Selwood, Thomas, Pendlebury, Goddard, and Port's Trengrove. And there would be more out there that we don't know about as Scully, Ward, and Palmer would hardly have topped the midfield wish list at Rooty Hill at the start of the year.

        These are men who have been offered more than what Cal has accepted and who weren't born and bred in the region that their clubs represent.

        These are men who did put loyalty and friendship ahead of pure financial gain.

        Let's not forget that people like that are still out there.

        Let's not forget that Callan Ward is not one of them.

        We offered Ward 2.4 million dollars to stay with his friends, family and club for the next five years.

        With wise investment and the reduced tax rate that professional sportsman pay, he'd be worth something in the region of 1.8 million dollars when he came out of that contract; and he'd only be 26.

        Doesn't seem like too bad of a deal, does it?

        You can see why quality young men have been turning down West Sydney's offer.

        But, clearly, it wasn't enough for Ward. He isn't a quality young man at all. He's just a greedy, disloyal, piece of shit.

        Would I begrudge a man earning $100,000 from leaving his job for an extra $500,000? No. Of course not.

        Do I begrudge a kid earning over $450,000 from leaving his club for an extra $400,000? Absolutely.

        The club did everything it could to keep him but it was never going to be enough.

        We've spent a fortune developing a midfielder for somebody else. Even this year, we've been wasting valuable game time on filth when we've got a host of talented youngsters in need of senior experience.

        I don't wish him well at all.

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        • Mofra
          Hall of Fame
          • Dec 2006
          • 14983

          Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

          Originally posted by chef
          Like he's the first player to be offered overs to go to a start up club, oh wait so did Higgins, Cooney and Griffen

          Ward did choose the easy decision IMO.
          The difference in contract amounts in each case was nowhere near as great, and Ward seems to have made a gentlemen's agreement with GWS to ensure we receive extra compensation so again the compensation at a club level is greater for us.

          You actually think Ward's decision was easy, and didn't come after months of deliberation?
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          • LostDoggy
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 8307

            Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

            Originally posted by Swoop

            There is a significant gap in the amount of money poured into football departments between the top and bottom clubs, although the salary cap remains the same, the amount of money that is able to be spent on the development of each player isn't and it's those things players consider when choosing clubs of their choice.

            You don't honestly think that Ward left for a larger football department spend, do you Swoop?

            A player might leave a ghetto to play in a palace, but that's no longer the case at the Whitten Oval. Incidentally, when we did play out of a ghetto, some of our favourite sons chose to remain at the club.

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            • Remi Moses
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2009
              • 14785

              Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

              Originally posted by Mofra
              The difference in contract amounts in each case was nowhere near as great, and Ward seems to have made a gentlemen's agreement with GWS to ensure we receive extra compensation so again the compensation at a club level is greater for us.

              You actually think Ward's decision was easy, and didn't come after months of deliberation?
              Seems to have made a gentleman's agreement.
              How do you know? Pie in the sky stuff

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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

                Originally posted by GetDimmaBack
                http://www.news.com.au/home-is-exact...-1226076768377

                Would it be worth the club reading this back to Callan?
                Just realized that he grew up a Bombers fan. That explains it all! Nuff said....

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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

                  Originally posted by teddy54
                  Just realized that he grew up a Bombers fan. That explains it all! Nuff said....
                  Reading that article makes me a little angry about all of this now...

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                  • chef
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 14634

                    Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

                    Originally posted by Mofra
                    The difference in contract amounts in each case was nowhere near as great, and Ward seems to have made a gentlemen's agreement with GWS to ensure we receive extra compensation so again the compensation at a club level is greater for us.

                    You actually think Ward's decision was easy, and didn't come after months of deliberation?
                    I don't think it was easy, but it was the easier of the two options IMO. Also to me Ward had made up his mind when GWS gave him the two weeks ultimatum a couple of months back.

                    I don't think Griffen, Higgins and other offers were that far off what Ward accepted, but they were no way near what Kruezer and Martin knocked back.

                    Hope you are right about the gentleman's agreement, but I won't hold my breath as I really am shattered ATM and am still expecting the worst when it comes to our compo.
                    The curse is dead.

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                    • cinder
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 956

                      Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

                      When do we find out what the compo is?

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                      • Mofra
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 14983

                        Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

                        Originally posted by Remi Moses
                        Seems to have made a gentleman's agreement.
                        How do you know? Pie in the sky stuff
                        I don't know - but I dare so noone here knows for sure, either. I can only go off what I've heard.

                        Originally posted by chef
                        Hope you are right about the gentleman's agreement, but I won't hold my breath as I really am shattered ATM and am still expecting the worst when it comes to our compo.
                        Maybe I'm optimistic, but somehow I think by the end of trade week we will have done ok.
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                        • divvydan
                          WOOF Member
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 1502

                          Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

                          Originally posted by cinder
                          When do we find out what the compo is?
                          Last year compensation was usually announced about 2 days after the official signing of a player, so it could well happen by the middle of the week but it all depends on the papers being filed with AFL etc so don't be impatient if it's not until the end of the week.

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

                            Originally posted by The Rocket
                            There's a salary cap.

                            We pay 100% of it each year.

                            Our facilities are excellent.

                            It's not the 1970s anymore.
                            Salary cap? There's no salary cap.

                            I think there were figures in the paper about the ASA or whatever the AFL call the third-party arrangements.

                            West Coast has something like 90 third-party deals for their players.

                            North Melbourne has 4.

                            Which end of the scale do you think we're closer to?

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                            • chef
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 14634

                              Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

                              Originally posted by Mofra
                              I don't know - but I dare so noone here knows for sure, either. I can only go off what I've heard.
                              Some guy on the GWS board claiming that we are trading Reid plus a third rounder for pick 1 in the mini draft with Reid to be announced as a GWS player with Ward on Wednesday

                              Can't see this happening, but wow if it did.
                              The curse is dead.

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                              • Greystache
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 9775

                                Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

                                What's the mini draft?
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