Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

[Sockeye Salmon]

Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

Did they take a batch of 17 y.o's last year?

If so, anyone got a list of their profiles (eg. what sort of player they are)?

On another note, anyone remember when Clayton said we drafted Tiller 'late' in the draft because we thought he would be a very early selection the following year?

He said it about Skipper, too.

[Topdog]

Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

It's probably the most stupid rumour I've heard all year.

We will lose:
Ward
Reid

We will get:
Tier 2 compensation pick
VFL player or 3rd round pick
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Dont tell me you didn't hear about the gentlemans agreement???

[Greystache]

Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

Did they take a batch of 17 y.o's last year?

If so, anyone got a list of their profiles (eg. what sort of player they are)?

On another note, anyone remember when Clayton said we drafted Tiller 'late' in the draft because we thought he would be a very early selection the following year?

I think you're thinking of Paul O'shea, we drafted him in the 70's as a bottom age player because Clayton thought he could be a top 10 pick the next year. In fairness to Scott Clayton he wouldn't have a clue what a quality young tall looks like.

[Missing Dog]

Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

I think you're thinking of Paul O'shea, we drafted him in the 70's as a bottom age player because Clayton thought he could be a top 10 pick the next year. In fairness to Scott Clayton he wouldn't have a clue what a quality young tall looks like.

Brian Harris?

[Greystache]

Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

Brian Harris?

Harris was a 20 year old we took a punt on because he had an interesting story (athsma and narcolepsy while working in a slaughter house) and Clayton felt being drafted might give him a chance in life, it was a toss of a coin between him and another generic running player. It worked out brilliantly, but it was more good fortune than good managememt.

[chef]

Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

I'm not 'blaming' you, just saying I didn't like the tone. I did say 'with respect'. Not the greatest sledge ever on this site, was it?

I don't get why anyone would be 'outraged' about Reid going to GWS. I was presuming that he'd put his hand up for the deal, as another thread is stating that it was part of the deal that Callan asked for. Reid is a Sydney boy, you could understand he wants to return home, I'd have thought it was win/win rather than a shafting of a player.

No, he's from Queensland. But his younger brother is in GWS development squad taken as a NSW boy because he and his father moved to Moama(to live with his grandparents) so he could play TAC footy for the Pioneers to better his chances of getting drafted.

[Sedat]

Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

I think you're thinking of Paul O'shea, we drafted him in the 70's as a bottom age player because Clayton thought he could be a top 10 pick the next year. In fairness to Scott Clayton he wouldn't have a clue what a quality young tall looks like.

It was true of all of Skipper, Tiller and O'Shea. All were bottom age when drafted and were going to be 'top 10 selections the following season'

[Maddog37]

Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

It's probably the most stupid rumour I've heard all year.

We will lose:
Ward
Reid

We will get:
Tier 2 compensation pick
VFL player or 3rd round pick


Any talk of one of GWS's 17yos is ridiculous.

They have 4 that they must trade or lose over two years. I understand they only intend to trade off two this year.

Every other club has the option to bid for either of these picks with GWS deciding who holds the winning bid.

Jaeger O'Meara is being touted as one of the best kids in a decade and you think every other club will give him to us for Reid?


We would have to start the bidding with Jones and then add something else.

Come on SS at least allow us to have a little bit of hope that we might come out of this whole deal the winners!!

[Rocket Science]

Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

Malthouse chiming in on the subject of compensation...

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The Magpie coach questioned the compensation the Bulldogs are seeking for losing Ward.

"A wishlist is all very well, but the reality is – is he worth two first round draft picks?

"I wouldn’t be as optimistic as what Footscray think they are… I think young Ward is a very good footballer, but you’re dealing with one of the greats of the game (Gary Ablett) getting two (draft picks)."

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Naturally we want as much compensation as we can extract, but in truth given the standard that's been set we all know he's right. Still completely blows though.

[GVGjr]

Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

Malthouse chiming in on the subject of compensation...

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The Magpie coach questioned the compensation the Bulldogs are seeking for losing Ward.

"A wishlist is all very well, but the reality is – is he worth two first round draft picks?

"I wouldn’t be as optimistic as what Footscray think they are… I think young Ward is a very good footballer, but you’re dealing with one of the greats of the game (Gary Ablett) getting two (draft picks)."

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Naturally we want as much compensation as we can extract, but in truth given the standard that's been set we all know he's right. Still completely blows though.

True. But if you compare the two:
Geelong recived two for him being such a good player.
We should recive two as it has affected the set up our future. Ward leaving would disrupt our plans for the future more than Ablett leaving Geelong.

Plus, after a 96 point thumping, I would think he would have more important things to worry about than our little club...

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

Every time I hear somebody tell us what we 'deserve', it makes me angrier at the game. We continue to get absolutely screwed.

Please surprise us, AFL. We surely could do with a 'break' after the last few years.

[Doc26]

Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

Every time I hear somebody tell us what we 'deserve', it makes me angrier at the game. We continue to get absolutely screwed.

Please surprise us, AFL. We surely could do with a 'break' after the last few years.

The other thing being missed is why must Ablett's deal for 2 compensation picks be viewed as the floor. Just maybe Ablett's deal was at the higher end of a scale for the right to pick up 2 picks. Doesn't mean we shouldn't be eligible for 2 picks for Ward, maybe he crosses the band at the lower end.

[stefoid]

Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

Malthouse chiming in on the subject of compensation...

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The Magpie coach questioned the compensation the Bulldogs are seeking for losing Ward.

"A wishlist is all very well, but the reality is – is he worth two first round draft picks?

"I wouldn’t be as optimistic as what Footscray think they are… I think young Ward is a very good footballer, but you’re dealing with one of the greats of the game (Gary Ablett) getting two (draft picks)."

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Naturally we want as much compensation as we can extract, but in truth given the standard that's been set we all know he's right. Still completely blows though.

Assuming both Ablett and Ward now stay put, Ward will play twice as many games for GWS as Ablett will for GC. Whats that worth?

For us to be adequately compensated for Ward, we need to find another 200 game midfielder with the pick we get, who is able to start playing almost instantly.

The consideration of what we have lost - harbrow and ward both 21yos and probably 150+ gamers should be taken into combined consideration. Its a 300 game hole blown in our list right where we least want one.

[stefoid]

Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

You know what, if we are heading mid table next year, and the AFL screws us over Ward, Im kind of hoping that we tank like arseholes towards the end of 2012, resulting in two top 5 picks, and grab Lachlan Hunter F/S with our second round pick, and Beasly F/S (who will turn out to be a quality forward in this fantasy scenario) with our 3rd rounder.

Shove it right up em.

[BulldogBelle]

Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

You know what, if we are heading mid table next year, and the AFL screws us over Ward, Im kind of hoping that we tank like arseholes towards the end of 2012, resulting in two top 5 picks, and grab Lachlan Hunter F/S with our second round pick, and Beasly F/S (who will turn out to be a quality forward in this fantasy scenario) with our 3rd rounder.

Shove it right up em.

The AFL doesnt want to do us, Melbourne or North any favours...

Why should they, comparing our attendences to the likes of the power clubs?

All we can hope for is to get some free kicks via Father / Son selections and develop our other draft picks- cause we arent going to get it after being raped by GWS