Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

[SonofScray]

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Certainly in the Greater Western area of Sydney you would have anyway.

[SonofScray]

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This is the last(ish) I will post on the subject but don't just take my word for it...so here is the word of someone that may carry a little more weight.

“There is something noble about being working class and being part of the Bulldogs. It is a known fact that the Footscray dirt we have under our fingernails makes us better people than our competitors.”
Robert Murphy

Bob Murphy - a true Bulldog, Footscray through and through.

[Rocco Jones]

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Geez. Hating on Footscray, the home of your own Club you support and our own name. Regardless of the FNWB debate, that is pretty ordinary.

I agree. Whether you want us to be calle Footscray or Western, no one sees the term 'Footscray' in a poorer light than our fans. I really think it goes beyond what our fans think about the suburb. I think it's more about our fans being embarrassed about the club's history. It's not just a suburb, the name is well and truly part of our history.

You would never see Collingwood fans doing this and outside of a few funksters, Collingwood well and truly has it's issues as a suburb.

Maybe I am being sensitive as I grew up in Footscray. I know it gets mocked but this is the last place that should happen. We wear a robot on our jumper, our 'home ground' is the most sterile of grounds shared by a bunch of teams, we allow a guy who belongs to another club play for us and we called Western and are insulted by 'Footscray'.

Sure we have a losing history but the biggest loser is one who has such little pride in themselves and are embarrassed by what they are. Sorry to sulk and rant but we feel a whole lot like Melbourne franchise # 9 to me.

[Rocco Jones]

Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

This is the last(ish) I will post on the subject but don't just take my word for it...so here is the word of someone that may carry a little more weight.

“There is something noble about being working class and being part of the Bulldogs. It is a known fact that the Footscray dirt we have under our fingernails makes us better people than our competitors.”
Robert Murphy

Love you Bobby.

I think this needs to be my last(ish) post too. Think I am about to rival emo level of some Eade fans here if I keep on hearing about how insulting the term Footscray is on a Bulldogs forum!

[Ghost Dog]

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I agree. Whether you want us to be calle Footscray or Western, no one sees the term 'Footscray' in a poorer light than our fans. I really think it goes beyond what our fans think about the suburb. I think it's more about our fans being embarrassed about the club's history. It's not just a suburb, the name is well and truly part of our history.

You would never see Collingwood fans doing this and outside of a few funksters, Collingwood well and truly has it's issues as a suburb.

Maybe I am being sensitive as I grew up in Footscray. I know it gets mocked but this is the last place that should happen. We wear a robot on our jumper, our 'home ground' is the most sterile of grounds shared by a bunch of teams, we allow a guy who belongs to another club play for us and we called Western and are insulted by 'Footscray'.

Sure we have a losing history but the biggest loser is one who has such little pride in themselves and are embarrassed by what they are. Sorry to sulk and rant but we feel a whole lot like Melbourne franchise # 9 to me.

I think they did a survey a while back and found people in Maribynong area had the most negative outlook in Melbourne. It was in the leader. I disagree with above entirely. All relative. With little support, financially and fan based, in an area full of migrants who are not interested, lacking facilities that other clubs enjoy, our club does pretty well when the books are balanced. But that's my take.

Like the Jordon McMahon thing , hoping history books will write that we came out way ahead in the wake of the upstart of GWS and we can turn this thing into a positive.

[Rocco Jones]

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I think they did a survey a while back and found people in Maribynong shire had the most pessimistic outlook in Melbourne. If I can, I'll find the reference. It was in the Melbourne leader.

My great hope is that like the Jordon McMahon thing , the history books will write that we came out way ahead in the wake of the upstart of GWS.

Yep.

Look, as much as I rate a club remembering it's roots and as much as I am a Footscray man, I can understand changing back isn't probably best for the club. What I can't get is our own fans being so insulted by the term 'Footscray'. It's not about the suburb, it's about your club.

[AndrewP6]

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Yep.

Look, as much as I rate a club remembering it's roots and as much as I am a Footscray man, I can understand changing back isn't probably best for the club. What I can't get is our own fans being so insulted by the term 'Footscray'. It's not about the suburb, it's about your club.

My comment was not a dig at "Footscray", more about my feeling that Malthouse was not exactly being warm, but rather patronising, in his use of the name. Anyway, moving right along. Go Dogs.

[Ghost Dog]

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My comment was not a dig at "Footscray", more about my feeling that Malthouse was not exactly being warm, but rather patronising, in his use of the name. Anyway, moving right along. Go Dogs.

Nah he's just an old fart!. I bet he still calls a radio a wireless.

[Doc26]

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Personally I'd be more than happy if the Club reverted back to Footscray. It's all I knew growing up and have no problem whatsoever with Footscray or its heritage, actually I'm very proud of it besides living most of my years in the East. With that said, if the marketers can reasonably quantify there is significant value in maintaining Western Bulldogs as our name then I can live with it. As for the Robodog, well that's a different story, it should be buried forever as its so juevenile I feel sorry for any grown man that is obliged to wear it as their work uniform.

[Sedat]

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What I can't get is our own fans being so insulted by the term 'Footscray'.

This puzzles me as well. It is an eclectic, diverse, vibrant suburb that has no more or less of the social issues that compound any other inner city suburb. If the phrase 'gateway to the west' could be dovetailed into our brand, I'd have no problem with the change back to Footscray - I think it is important to embrace the western region of Melbourne and the natural geographical advantages that this gives us, I just don't think the name 'Western Bulldogs' really does that effectively. If the name remains I'm not too fussed, but from a personal perspective I just find it to be a little generic.

[1eyedog]

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My mother in law lives in Footscray, in the old theater opposite Gilmore Girls on Barkly. She is a single late 50s woman who has never had a problem in the the suburb except when she walked past an argument a few months ago that turned into a fatal shooting.

I hear about things like that all the time in Brunswick.

I use to catch the V/line train up from Geelong everyday when I was living down there and I always got a tingle when I looked out of the window and saw Footscray station. There is just something about that name.

[Doc26]

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My comment was not a dig at "Footscray", more about my feeling that Malthouse was not exactly being warm, but rather patronising, in his use of the name. Anyway, moving right along. Go Dogs.

Andrew, not sure why you believe Mick's reference to "Footscray" was meant in a disparaging way. His own years at the Club were all under the banner of 'Footscray', it's as he would fondly know it.

Not that Mick's old, getting there as we all are, but I still hear a number of our old timers commonly refer to the Club as Footscray and their intentions would not be questioned as such, it's just how they know the Club. I often hear KB refer to the Club as Footscray, and yet it's not coming from any malice or disrespect, to the contrary, I believe it comes from a healthy respect for our Club.

[AndrewP6]

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Andrew, not sure why you believe Mick's reference to "Footscray" was meant in a disparaging way. His own years at the Club were all under the banner of 'Footscray', it's as he would fondly know it.

Not that Mick's old, getting there as we all are, but I still hear a number of our old timers commonly refer to the Club as Footscray and their intentions would not be questioned as such, it's just how they know the Club. I often hear KB refer to the Club as Footscray, and yet it's not coming from any malice or disrespect, to the contrary, I believe it comes from a healthy respect for our Club.

Fair enough, I'm just suspicious.

[KT31]

Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

This is the last(ish) I will post on the subject but don't just take my word for it...so here is the word of someone that may carry a little more weight.

“There is something noble about being working class and being part of the Bulldogs. It is a known fact that the Footscray dirt we have under our fingernails makes us better people than our competitors.”
Robert Murphy

My final say.
By definition, can you be noble and working class ?
Would not exactly class a professional sportsman as working class.
I would agree it is special to be working class and a Doggies man.
I also agree Footscray is not the worst place in the World.
IMO we would still reach a bigger supporter base if we remain The Western Bulldogs.
Lets get this thread back on track and agree to disagree.

[LostDoggy]

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Callan looks just awful in orange!!