Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

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  • divvydan
    WOOF Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 1502

    Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS



    The Bulldogs will receive second band compensation, one first-round selection, for the loss of Callan Ward, as will the Crows for Phil Davis
    MELBOURNE will receive the top level of compensation, two first-round NAB AFL Draft picks, for Tom Scully's defection to GWS.

    Rhys Palmer's departure from Fremantle has been deemed worthy of third band compensation, an end of first-round pick.

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    • Dancin' Douggy
      WOOF Member
      • Oct 2007
      • 2876

      Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

      Can we protest or appeal?

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      • divvydan
        WOOF Member
        • Oct 2009
        • 1502

        Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

        We are allowed to appeal if we wish, however, given the reasoning given by the AFL about the large gap in wages between Scully and Ward, it's probably fruitless to do so.

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

          Adelaide receive the same compo for Davis as we get for Ward? How the hell does that work?

          One has played 60 games, the other 18, and one has bigger (reportedly) pay packet.

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          • LostDoggy
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 8307

            Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

            This is really deflating that the AFL can let our club's progress be severely affected by losing a talented young player two years in a row.

            Why didn't the successful clubs lose players.

            Makes me question why we should be paying memberships loyally for years ... whist the AFL does everything to prevent us getting the ultimate success.

            Maybe the AFL can stump up the loss of memeberships from our club until an even playing field is introduced.

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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

              This was always going to happen. Such a joke.

              What was Davis rumoured to be offered? Is there much a differene between Scully to Ward and Ward to Davis?

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              • Rocco Jones
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jun 2008
                • 6932

                Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

                Originally posted by Petergm
                This is really deflating that the AFL can let our club's progress be severely affected by losing a talented young player two years in a row.

                Why didn't the successful clubs lose players.

                Makes me question why we should be paying memberships loyally for years ... whist the AFL does everything to prevent us getting the ultimate success.

                Maybe the AFL can stump up the loss of memeberships from our club until an even playing field is introduced.
                North Melbourne haven't lost a player. The Saints aren't loaded and they haven't lost one either.

                I don't doubt that we are at a disadvantage in comparison to the 'big clubs' but I also think it's easy and pointless to play the victim card.

                It's easy to blame the AFL, GWS and traitors. We need to look at what we can actually affect and that's our side of operations. That's the hard part, maybe it isn't all just about us being screwed.

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                • divvydan
                  WOOF Member
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 1502

                  Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

                  Originally posted by Jaytee
                  This was always going to happen. Such a joke.

                  What was Davis rumoured to be offered? Is there much a differene between Scully to Ward and Ward to Davis?
                  It appears the gap from Scully to Ward contract wise was a lot bigger than Ward to Davis.

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                  • Remi Moses
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 14785

                    Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

                    So much for some of the fantasy bandied around about Ward "looking after the club"! Joke system becoming a joke of a sport.

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                    • Dancin' Douggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 2876

                      Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

                      Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                      North Melbourne haven't lost a player. The Saints aren't loaded and they haven't lost one either.

                      I don't doubt that we are at a disadvantage in comparison to the 'big clubs' but I also think it's easy and pointless to play the victim card.

                      It's easy to blame the AFL, GWS and traitors. We need to look at what we can actually affect and that's our side of operations. That's the hard part, maybe it isn't all just about us being screwed.
                      OK. This makes my blood boil.
                      The AFL starts two new franchises. Gives them an open cheque and says "go and get any uncontracted players you want".

                      Then when players take the money, the AFL (Read Demetriou) points his finger at the clubs that lost players and BLAMES THEM!

                      The players were going to come from somewhere weren't they?

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                      • Rocco Jones
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 6932

                        Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

                        Originally posted by Dancin' Douggy
                        OK. This makes my blood boil.
                        The AFL starts two new franchises. Gives them an open cheque and says "go and get any uncontracted players you want".

                        Then when players take the money, the AFL (Read Demetriou) points his finger at the clubs that lost players and BLAMES THEM!

                        The players were going to come from somewhere weren't they?
                        Hey, I don't like the system either. I just think we place all the blame on the AFL and GWS our own end becomes unaccountable.

                        The Crows have lost 2
                        The Dogs have lost 2
                        North has lost none
                        Saints have lost none

                        Perhaps our poor finances aren't the only thing that means we are losing players. We can scream and shout about how evil the AFL and it's franchises are but that won't a change a thing. What we must focus on is what we can do. If we are not doing all we can then we are in massive trouble come free agency time.

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                        • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8971

                          Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

                          Originally posted by Dancin' Douggy
                          Can we protest or appeal?
                          The club has already said it will accept it and move on.
                          I believe we could've appealed it but a fat lot of good it would do.

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                          • Dancin' Douggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 2876

                            Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

                            What a stinking cesspit.

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                            • Doc26
                              Coaching Staff
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 3087

                              Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

                              Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                              Hey, I don't like the system either. I just think we place all the blame on the AFL and GWS our own end becomes unaccountable.

                              The Crows have lost 2
                              The Dogs have lost 2
                              North has lost none
                              Saints have lost none


                              Perhaps our poor finances aren't the only thing that means we are losing players. We can scream and shout about how evil the AFL and it's franchises are but that won't a change a thing. What we must focus on is what we can do. If we are not doing all we can then we are in massive trouble come free agency time.
                              First up, I profess I loathe the 'agreement' put in place to setup GCS and GWS and in general the AFL for their continued poor treatment of Club's in our position.

                              I accepted Harbrow's defection on family grounds. Not the first, nor the last player to seek a return on these grounds. Not to mention a big pay rise to go with it.

                              As for the latest Ward scenario, was there any player on North's or St Kilda's list for exanple that GWS would've offered such a step up or percentage increase to that offered to Callan. Is it possible we simply lucked out by having someone of Callan's perceived value to GWS both in age and type and particularly at a time when we would appear to be on a down curve and in need of a rebuild of sorts ?

                              A case could be mounted for having had Ward signed up much earlier but then maybe we tried valiantly, maybe Connors was aware of the landscape and advised his client to hold out as he did.

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                              • Rocco Jones
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 6932

                                Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

                                Originally posted by Doc26
                                First up, I profess I loathe the 'agreement' put in place to setup GCS and GWS and in general the AFL for their continued poor treatment of Club's in our position.

                                I accepted Harbrow's defection on family grounds. Not the first, nor the last player to seek a return on these grounds. Not to mention a big pay rise to go with it.

                                As for the latest Ward scenario, was there any player on North's or St Kilda's list for exanple that GWS would've offered such a step up or percentage increase to that offered to Callan. Is it possible we simply lucked out by having someone of Callan's perceived value to GWS both in age and type and particularly at a time when we would appear to be on a down curve and in need of a rebuild of sorts ?

                                A case could be mounted for having had Ward signed up much earlier but then maybe we tried valiantly, maybe Connors was aware of the landscape and advised his client to hold out as he did.
                                Andrew Swallow was offered the once in a lifetime deal that no sane person could possibly reject.

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