The Lottery - Pick 17

[Desipura]

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Report in this morning's Herald Sun that Richmond is interested in Shane Kersten with pick 15 & as a result it has lead to somewhat of a re-think amongst other clubs, including ours.

Part of the article:

The news means the Dockers are set to move on inside midfielder Clay Smith, forcing the Western Bulldogs, which desperately want Smith, into reconsidering their position.

On Tuesday the Dogs flew another inside midfielder, *Shane Kerridge, from his home in Mildura to Whitten Oval for talks.

It is understood coach Brendan McCartney wants a contested ball-winner to help build a midfield around.

Kerridge was tipped to be taken in the 30s.

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* Pretty sure that's meant to be Sam Kerridge.

This from Jason Phelan's Phantom Draft:

27. Adelaide - Sam Kerridge
Height: 188cm
Weight: 86kg
DOB: 26/4/93
Club: Bendigo Pioneers
Draft range: 25-35
The Crows need to replenish their tall stocks, but the prospect of adding courageous onballer Kerridge here is enough to put the key position search on hold until later. Kerridge was asked to do a lot in a struggling Bendigo team this year, but rose to the task admirably. He's a good height for a midfielder, has a huge tank, and can go forward and kick a goal. He's a powerfully built lad who is strong overhead and can win his own ball with a turn of speed to break away from packs. Adelaide would have also looked long and hard at local lad and All Australian half-back flanker Alex Forster here.

Why is it no surprise that we are going for a player who is tipped to go later than our pick 17?

[the banker]

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I am with Macca. I would go for a high quality individual who adds to the culture of the club as priority #1 and is the best available talent at pick 17. later picks could be needs focussed.

I like the sound of Crozier, he reminds me of the first chapter of "Freakanomics" how these young guys with late birthdays often slip through the draft system due to their late month birthdays. Being so young, he is basically a year younger than many of the others in the draft, he may have quantum development in the first year and 2013 may see he come out a gun.

[mjp]

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Why is it no surprise that we are going for a player who is tipped to go later than our pick 17?

Kerridge wouldn't be a surprise to the industry at 17.

[Missing Dog]

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27. Adelaide - Sam Kerridge
Height: 188cm
Weight: 86kg
DOB: 26/4/93
Club: Bendigo Pioneers
Draft range: 25-35
The Crows need to replenish their tall stocks, but the prospect of adding courageous onballer Kerridge here is enough to put the key position search on hold until later. Kerridge was asked to do a lot in a struggling Bendigo team this year, but rose to the task admirably. He's a good height for a midfielder, has a huge tank, and can go forward and kick a goal. He's a powerfully built lad who is strong overhead and can win his own ball with a turn of speed to break away from packs. Adelaide would have also looked long and hard at local lad and All Australian half-back flanker Alex Forster here.

Great! Another player with not so great disposal.

At least he offers something on the outside though and I'd prefer him over C Smith.

[The Coon Dog]

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Some interesting tweets:

Jay Clark: Dogs flew inside mid sam Kerridge down from mildura to melb on tues. Think coach wants a hard ball winner, recruiter wants Hayden crozier.

Mark Stevens: Brendan McCartney wants tough competitive beasts. Flighty half forwards need not apply. Hard at it mid with 17.

Sam Landsberger: Kerridge played 3 VFL games under Shannon Grant at Bendigo this year, impressing both him and Brendan McCartney. Dogs won't get him at 39.

Emma Quayle: Dogs to come down to Crozier or Kerridge - but the spanner in the works will be Docherty, should Brisbane not take him.

[The Doctor]

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Some interesting tweets:

Jay Clarke: Dogs flew inside mid sam Kerridge down from mildura to melb on tues. Think coach wants a hard ball winner, recruiter wants Hayden crozier.

Mark Stevens: Brendan McCartney wants tough competitive beasts. Flighty half forwards need not apply. Hard at it mid with 17.

Sam Landsberger: Kerridge played 3 VFL games under Shannon Grant at Bendigo this year, impressing both him and Brendan McCartney. Dogs won't get him at 39.

Emma Quayle: Dogs to come down to Crozier or Kerridge - but the spanner in the works will be Docherty, should Brisbane not take him.

Ha just put a few of these up on another thread....great minds......???

[The Coon Dog]

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Ha just put a few of these up on another thread....great minds......???

They also say fools seldom differ!

[stefoid]

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Been in the job for a month or so and stamping his authority.

Well, OK then.

But please dont get us a serial turnover-merchant. please!

[The Coon Dog]

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Why is it no surprise that we are going for a player who is tipped to go later than our pick 17?

Interesting, seems a bit of a tug of war between McCartney & Dalrymple (see below). Somehow I think if McCartney wins then people will still bag Dalrymple.

Jay Clark: Dogs flew inside mid Sam Kerridge down from Mildura to Melb on Tues. Think coach wants a hard ball winner, recruiter wants Hayden Crozier.

[Mofra]

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Wanting to sure up our KPD stock's when Lake looks finished, Morris will probably never be the same player again(will struggle to play half the season) and Williams can't stay on the park. I'm happy to take that strange approach. All those players should be gone within the next dozen picks so it's not that much of a reach.

Lake - pick 71
Morris - Rookie

Missing out on a KP player in round 1 doesn't preclude us finding someone decent so I don;t think we shoudl reach for a tall, especially considering the group consensus seems to be this years' draft pool is thin on talent for KPPs. Our best KPF was a 2nd rounder, as is our best young ruck prospect.
The last time we "reached" for a tall KPD we had to trade him to Sydney.

[stefoid]

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Who does this remind you of? hmmmmmmm. (marge simpson voice)

Brisbane - 30. Sam Kerridge

Brisbane get the next best player IMO, a very good inside/outside midfielder, nice athletic qualities and very hard at it. He presents as a good prospect, although his skills are inconsistent, and he needs to be a bit more composed with ball in hand.

Sam is a good size, strong, good core strength, and should grow into a powerful unit. He is a good athlete, good burst of pace, very good endurance, and reasonably agile. As an inside player he is capable of winning clearances, and bursting away from packs, a bit inconsistent doing this, and needs to make better decisions. Still he is very clean, has good hands and is a good prospect as a clearance winner. Outside Sam moves well around the ground, racks the disposals up nicely, and runs to good spots. Skills needs improving, at the start of the year I pegged him as a poor kick, yet really worked on it and showed a lot of improvement towards the end of the year. Should get better with time, needs to improve decision making and often just bombs it long. Still he has all the tools to become a good midfielder and a good part of the rotations. He is a strong mark, and I would like to see him improve this area a lot and work well as a forward.

[Mofra]

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Kerridge wouldn't be a surprise to the industry at 17.

You'd know better than anyone else here mjp - what's his kicking like?

[stefoid]

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So, just throwing this out there, but if we do go reach for a player tipped to go 30+ with our pick 17, what do you think about the fact that the Suns were basically throwing away picks in the 20s and early 30s to get the lowest single pick they could?

They traded:

Geelong exchange their first-round pick (26) to Gold Coast Suns for picks No.32 and No.34

Adelaide exchange round-one selection (24) to Gold Coast Suns for their priority selection (27), round-two selection (31) and round-four selection (68)


So what could we have got for pick 17? I would hazard a guess - pick 24 and pick 26 could have been on the table after the above deals were done.

Sam Kerridge AND Michael Talia anyone?

A lack of forward planning there - if BMac wanted a hard bodied midfiedler, who probably would be available in the 20s, why wasnt this kind of scenario planned before trade week?

EDIT: how hard could it be? Announce on first day of trade week to all other clubs - we are fielding offers for pick 17, we want the best two picks in the 20s we can get, balls in your court(s)

[gohardorgohome]

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I just hope we get the best player possible at pick 17. Im sure that any obvious Judd or Brown like player will be gone by then.

I think it is very difficult for anyone who has not watched 100+ elite junior games accross the bredth of Australia to really be able to make a call on this. I havent done this and therefore am self admittedly not in a position to comment one way or the other..

[LostDoggy]

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I just hope we get the best player possible at pick 17. Im sure that any obvious Judd or Brown like player will be gone by then.

I think it is very difficult for anyone who has not watched 100+ elite junior games accross the bredth of Australia to really be able to make a call on this. I havent done this and therefore am self admittedly not in a position to comment one way or the other..

Post of the year, in terms of recruitment discussion.