The Lottery - Pick 17

[GVGjr]

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This who Jason Phelan phantom draft
has us taking in the draft

17. Western Bulldogs - Hayden Crozier
Height: 185cm
Weight: 68kg
DOB: 24/12/93
Club: Eastern Ranges
Draft range: 13-23
Crozier is one of the youngest players in this draft pool and he is also one of the most exciting. The Dogs probably have greater areas of need, but based purely on talent alone this is a great pick for them. Bulldogs fans will need to be patient - they probably won't see their prized first-round selection at all in 2012 - but Crozier should prove worth the wait. The spring-heeled forward shot to prominence with his huge hanger against WA during the national carnival, but he has a good footy brain to go with the x-factor he brings to the table. He is lightning quick, has a good tank, and with a further year of development in the AFL system could prove one of the steals of the draft. Gippsland's Clay Smith was a late contender for this slot, but the Dogs' abundance of inside mids sees them go with Crozier

.39. Western Bulldogs - Joel Hamling
Height: 194cm
Weight: 80kg
DOB: 9/4/93
Club: Claremont
Draft range: 25-40
Hamling is a bit of a project player, but his athleticism, vertical leap and pace off the mark make him an exciting prospect. He represented WA at the national carnival and has also spent some time in defence for Claremont. The Dogs need to bolster their tall forward stocks and Hamling is an excellent addition to help kick off the Brendan McCartney era.


49. Western Bulldogs - Jimmy Webster
Height: 188cm
Weight: 74kg
DOB: 28/6/93
Club: Glenorchy
Draft range: 35-55
Webster is a long-kicking left footer whose run and carry off a wing appeals to the Dogs. He was restricted to just two games at the championships by injury, but finished the season playing senior footy for Glenorchy. He can add some real dash and quality delivery inside 50.


57. Western Bulldogs - Alex Woodward
Height: 175cm
Weight: 80kg
DOB: 11/6/93
Club: Sandringham Dragons
Draft range: 40-60
Woodward has laboured under the misconception that he's a bit slow because he's an inside mid, but he laid that to rest at the combine with a 2.89s in the 20m sprint. He's a team-oriented onballer who averaged 26 possessions at an efficiency rating of 70 per cent with the Dragons and has strong leadership potential.

70. Western Bulldogs - Luke Dahlhaus (rookie elevation)


73. Western Bulldogs - Matthew Panos (rookie elevation

If these picks to come true i would be happy sounds like 4 good players to come into the side in years to come. With next super draft the reload is on track for 2012 on beyond.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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I think we'll pick up Ellis too.

[chef]

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I would be happy with either Schade, Talia, Frost or McInnes, but I think we end up with Clay Smith.

[lemmon]

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Would love Kavanagh, kid sounds like he could be a Rolls Royce

[GVGjr]

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I would be happy with either Schade, Talia, Frost or McInnes, but I think we end up with Clay Smith.

As first round selections?

[chef]

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As first round selections?

I know it's not going to happen, but I would be happy if we grabbed the best available KPB at 17(to me that's our greatest need but understand not everyone feels this way). I doubt any of these guys are going to be around come pick 39.

[GVGjr]

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I know it's not going to happen, but I would be happy if we grabbed the best available KPB at 17(to me that's our greatest need but understand not everyone feels this way). I doubt any of these guys are going to be around come pick 39.

A few months ago you were wanting the club to get the best possible draft picks by effectively losing games and now regardless of the draft position you are advocating not taking the best player available and would be happy to have a lesser talented player.
It's a strange approach you want to take.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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We're going to be in a strong position to land a better young KB next year. I think focusing on best available is a must in this draft. We can't afford too many 'fails' from this point forward.

I'm warming to Ellis, even over Crozier, for perhaps the above reasons.

[chef]

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A few months ago you were wanting the club to get the best possible draft picks by effectively losing games and now regardless of the draft position you are advocating not taking the best player available and would be happy to have a lesser talented player.
It's a strange approach you want to take.

Wanting to sure up our KPD stock's when Lake looks finished, Morris will probably never be the same player again(will struggle to play half the season) and Williams can't stay on the park. I'm happy to take that strange approach. All those players should be gone within the next dozen picks so it's not that much of a reach.

[chef]

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Who are you hoping for Gary?

[chef]

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A few months ago you were wanting the club to get the best possible draft picks by effectively losing games and now regardless of the draft position you are advocating not taking the best player available and would be happy to have a lesser talented player.
It's a strange approach you want to take.

I started that thread as a discussion point, in post 19 of that thread I stated 'I was torn between to two(IMO the difference between pick 15 and 12 could be huge on draft day), but hope we get a win for Huddo and Baz' plus 'Anyway I don't want us to lose this weekend(I was interested in the thoughts other WOOFERS though), I would rather Baz and Huddo go out with a bang'.

Can you point out to me where I said i wanted us to lose?

[GVGjr]

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Wanting to sure up our KPD stock's when Lake looks finished, Morris will probably never be the same player again(will struggle to play half the season) and Williams can't stay on the park. I'm happy to take that strange approach. All those players should be gone within the next dozen picks so it's not that much of a reach.

Clearly picking a KPP is not the issue because if there was a comparable standard of player around the time of our first pick I think a lot of people could see the value in it but you were advocating losing games to get the best possible pick when now the actual position means little to you. Thats what I regard as strange not the notion of getting a KPP.

There is a reason why a lot of the players are regarded as chances in the mid 20's but not earlier.

I'd have no problems overlooking a couple of positions to get a needs based player this year or any year for that matter.
Ie we have Crozier at 15 and Talia at 17 if both both were available at our pick but I wouldn't go to the 26th best player if that's where we genuinely rated Talia.

We will pick from a far better position next year and in a far stronger draft plus we will have an extra pick. We can better cover the needs then.

[stefoid]

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The thing to remember is despite all the glowing descriptions in the phantoms, how many of these kids actually end up being quality AFL players? Not that many. A handful from each draft, really.

With pick 17 in this draft, we will be struggling to get a quality AFL player of any sort, let alone specifically a tall defender.

[Ramone]

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The thing to remember is despite all the glowing descriptions in the phantoms, how many of these kids actually end up being quality AFL players? Not that many. A handful from each draft, really.

With pick 17 in this draft, we will be struggling to get a quality AFL player of any sort, let alone specifically a tall defender.

That might be very well true but isn't that the whole beauty of this time of the year. We could be picking up the next superstar of the competition !

[The Coon Dog]

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Report in this morning's Herald Sun that Richmond is interested in Shane Kersten with pick 15 & as a result it has lead to somewhat of a re-think amongst other clubs, including ours.

Part of the article:

The news means the Dockers are set to move on inside midfielder Clay Smith, forcing the Western Bulldogs, which desperately want Smith, into reconsidering their position.

On Tuesday the Dogs flew another inside midfielder, *Shane Kerridge, from his home in Mildura to Whitten Oval for talks.

It is understood coach Brendan McCartney wants a contested ball-winner to help build a midfield around.

Kerridge was tipped to be taken in the 30s.

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* Pretty sure that's meant to be Sam Kerridge.

This from Jason Phelan's Phantom Draft:

27. Adelaide - Sam Kerridge
Height: 188cm
Weight: 86kg
DOB: 26/4/93
Club: Bendigo Pioneers
Draft range: 25-35
The Crows need to replenish their tall stocks, but the prospect of adding courageous onballer Kerridge here is enough to put the key position search on hold until later. Kerridge was asked to do a lot in a struggling Bendigo team this year, but rose to the task admirably. He's a good height for a midfielder, has a huge tank, and can go forward and kick a goal. He's a powerfully built lad who is strong overhead and can win his own ball with a turn of speed to break away from packs. Adelaide would have also looked long and hard at local lad and All Australian half-back flanker Alex Forster here.