Rookie Draft

[Bornadog]

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How come we get a later pick than 4 finalists?

I think you'll find that the list supplied by bornadog was for last years Rookie Draft.

Thats last years.

yes sorry about that, saw 2011 and thought that was it. Can't find the same for this year on the AFL site

[Sockeye Salmon]

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No point going for a ruck if they are ordinary prospects -- which apparently they are.

Dalgleish would be my first target.

And if Minson goes down with a long term injury?

We need a mature ruck, Daniel Currie or similar.

[Bornadog]

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And if Minson goes down with a long term injury?

We need a mature ruck, Daniel Currie or similar.

Agree, we need to rookie a ruck of some sort.

[GVGjr]

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And if Minson goes down with a long term injury?

We need a mature ruck, Daniel Currie or similar.

Given the state of our list we then have to go with Mulligan or Markovic.
We could have had a look at Setanta who would have covered that position but we obviously didn't want someone with experience.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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And if Minson goes down with a long term injury?

We need a mature ruck, Daniel Currie or similar.

Even if they are another Cameron Cloke, Bryan or worse (dating back) Dooley?

No point getting a hack ruckman for the sake of getting a ruckman, and missing out on a good small.

[Sockeye Salmon]

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Even if they are another Cameron Cloke, Bryan or worse (dating back) Dooley?

No point getting a hack ruckman for the sake of getting a ruckman, and missing out on a good small.

We're not sacrificing a good small, we're sacrificing a rookie pick. If there's a small we're interested in we have 4 other picks to take him.

Bass, Currie, even Mark Blake are better options than Mulligan.

Mulligan is putrid in his best position let alone the position he hates.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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We're not sacrificing a good small, we're sacrificing a rookie pick. If there's a small we're interested in we have 4 other picks to take him.

Bass, Currie, even Mark Blake are better options than Mulligan.

Mulligan is putrid in his best position let alone the position he hates.

There's a reason why those players were delisted. I'd rather we draft talent with the potential to still be on the list after two years. Those three mentioned wouldn't -- matue age or not. We aren't going to be in flag contention next year -- worry about picking up a quality ruck in next year's draft (or trade).

Filling gaps with hacks is shooting ourselves in the foot IMO. Especially when we have so many other areas to address.

[GVGjr]

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We're not sacrificing a good small, we're sacrificing a rookie pick. If there's a small we're interested in we have 4 other picks to take him.

Bass, Currie, even Mark Blake are better options than Mulligan.

Blakes retired hasn't he?

[Dancin' Douggy]

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And if Minson goes down with a long term injury?

We need a mature ruck, Daniel Currie or similar.

With all due respect Sockeye, no we don't.
If Minson goes down we play Roughhead and Cordy.
And if they're still raw and not up to it, even better.
And if they go down, play Tutt in the ruck.
Demetriou may even call it a 'stroke of genius'.

I can't stand the idea of treading water just to stay mid-table.
Sink or swim.
Rookie players who have the potential to be AFL players,
not 'back up in case of injury' types.
If Roughhead and Cordy get smashed in the ruck, GOOD.

Our compensation pick increases in value and they both get a $#%@ing wake up call.
Maybe the year after, who knows? They just may realise what it takes, what's required at this level.

[Sockeye Salmon]

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With all due respect Sockeye, no we don't.
If Minson goes down we play Roughhead and Cordy.
And if they're still raw and not up to it, even better.
And if they go down, play Tutt in the ruck.
Demetriou may even call it a 'stroke of genius'.

I can't stand the idea of treading water just to stay mid-table.
Sink or swim.
Rookie players who have the potential to be AFL players,
not 'back up in case of injury' types.
If Roughhead and Cordy get smashed in the ruck, GOOD.

Our compensation pick increases in value and they both get a $#%@ing wake up call.
Maybe the year after, who knows? They just may realise what it takes, what's required at this level.

Or Aaron Sandilands breaks Cordy in two.

Even Roughead's body couldn't cope with rucking week in week out at AFL level, Cordy would be destroyed.

This throw them in, sink or swim bullshit will do nothing more than destroy their confidence at best, destroy their body at worst.

[Happy Days]

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Or Aaron Sandilands breaks Cordy in two.

Even Roughead's body couldn't cope with rucking week in week out at AFL level, Cordy would be destroyed.

This throw them in, sink or swim bullshit will do nothing more than destroy their confidence at best, destroy their body at worst.

+1.

There's developing players, and then there's breaking players. The ruck is a really physical position with really, really big dudes playing it; no one can look at Ayce or Roughy (with his dicky shoulders) and say that they are ready to bear that load full time.

Plus I really don't get how having someone behind Cordy/Roughead in line for a game hinders their development. And didn't Currie win the NEAFL B&F having only played 14 or so games? Not exactly a total crab.

[ledge]

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Or Aaron Sandilands breaks Cordy in two.

Even Roughead's body couldn't cope with rucking week in week out at AFL level, Cordy would be destroyed.

This throw them in, sink or swim bullshit will do nothing more than destroy their confidence at best, destroy their body at worst.

Dont you think after a few years at the club he should be ready by now, I understand Cordy has lighter body issues but Roughy should be ready now.

[Greystache]

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Blakes retired hasn't he?

He said he retired because he believed no one was going to pick him up, I believe if any club showed the slightest interest he couldn't sign quick enough.

[Sockeye Salmon]

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Dont you think after a few years at the club he should be ready by now, I understand Cordy has lighter body issues but Roughy should be ready now.

Perhaps he should but he has had a shoulder reconstruction every 8 weeks since he arrived at the club.

[Sockeye Salmon]

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For the record, I was only joking about Blake, just pointing out he would be a better ruck option than Mulligan.