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  • Maddog37
    WOOF Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 3132

    #61
    Re: Terry Wallace says - Current team Weakest since 1996 team.

    I think Smith will be more than a toiler. He has shown a bit more explosiveness than that.

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    • ledge
      Hall of Fame
      • Dec 2007
      • 14332

      #62
      Re: Terry Wallace says - Current team Weakest since 1996 team.

      Poor kid 3 games in, 4 goals in his first game and listed as a just a toiler.. what hope has he got.
      If you judge on that, Shane Warne was a deadset spud and delisted off the Australian cricket team after 3 games if you were a selector.
      Bring back the biff

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      • Bulldog Revolution
        Coaching Staff
        • Dec 2006
        • 3926

        #63
        Re: Terry Wallace says - Current team Weakest since 1996 team.

        Originally posted by Rocco Jones
        I really believe in the best available pick philosphy but we need to go with needs.
        Nobody has been in a better position to go best available pick philosophy over the past decade than Geelong.

        And yet they've picked a whole swag of players that fill current needs on their list and in their team i.e Harry Taylor JPod, Orren Stephenson etc

        You really have to do a mix of both, and the rookie draft really should enable you to do a bit of both because you have more picks and take fliers on some best performed and desperate state league players

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        • Sockeye Salmon
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jan 2007
          • 6365

          #64
          Re: Terry Wallace says - Current team Weakest since 1996 team.

          Originally posted by ledge
          Poor kid 3 games in, 4 goals in his first game and listed as a just a toiler.. what hope has he got.
          If you judge on that, Shane Warne was a deadset spud and delisted off the Australian cricket team after 3 games if you were a selector.
          And Marty McGrath would have won 3 Brownlows.


          This isn't about what he has or hasn't done in his first 3 games, it's looking at his potential and thinking 'how much better can he be?'.

          If his kicking can't improve he will always have a ceiling on how good he can get.

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          • Maddog37
            WOOF Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 3132

            #65
            Re: Terry Wallace says - Current team Weakest since 1996 team.

            Same things would no doubt have been said about Luke Dalhaus.

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            • Doc26
              Coaching Staff
              • Sep 2009
              • 3087

              #66
              Re: Terry Wallace says - Current team Weakest since 1996 team.

              Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
              And Marty McGrath would have won 3 Brownlows.


              This isn't about what he has or hasn't done in his first 3 games, it's looking at his potential and thinking 'how much better can he be?'.

              If his kicking can't improve he will always have a ceiling on how good he can get.
              Are we talking Rhys Palmer ?

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              • Bulldog Joe
                Premiership Moderator
                • Jul 2009
                • 5577

                #67
                Re: Terry Wallace says - Current team Weakest since 1996 team.

                Originally posted by Desipura
                Im awaiting an article on how successful the recruiting of Rawlings and Streety were, just to name a few. Especially giving up pick 17 for Streety for memory!
                While Terry has a few marks against him, you can't pin those on him.

                Those great deals were manufactured by "The Mastermind" Peter Rohde.

                and Hudson was picked up in the 50s by Adelaide.
                Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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                • 1eyedog
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 13237

                  #68
                  Re: Terry Wallace says - Current team Weakest since 1996 team.

                  Does this mean that next year we will be the best team since 1997?
                  But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                  • Missing-Dog
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 3102

                    #69
                    Re: Terry Wallace says - Current team Weakest since 1996 team.

                    Originally posted by Maddog37
                    Same things would no doubt have been said about Luke Dalhaus.

                    Dahlhaus had no real attributes that stood out according to all reports, including his kicking.. Dont see anything holding little Dahl back Smith might just follow in Lukes footsteps.. Hoping he does anyway

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                    • Ghost Dog
                      WOOF Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 9404

                      #70
                      Re: Terry Wallace says - Current team Weakest since 1996 team.

                      Originally posted by DragzLS1
                      Dahlhaus had no real attributes that stood out according to all reports, including his kicking.. Dont see anything holding little Dahl back Smith might just follow in Lukes footsteps.. Hoping he does anyway
                      Decision making is something you can't see easily on the outside at first. But over time, it makes its presence felt. Luke makes great choices and backs it up with a massive hunger for the ball. Footy Brains and Brawn.
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                      • The Doctor
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 3702

                        #71
                        Re: Terry Wallace says - Current team Weakest since 1996 team.

                        If The Bulldogs win the premiership next year Wallace will find some way to take the credit for it. But for all that he is correct in this context. The list is weak and you can't expect it to remain strong when you lose players of the calibre of Johnson, Hall, Aker, Hudson in quick succession and have so many fading stars, ie Lake, Gilbee, Cooney etc.

                        However our drafting & list management has been poor.

                        - Clayton bungling so many first round picks
                        - Allowing 2 of our best youngsters Ward and Harbrow to leave (Fantasia Dept)
                        - Strange draft choices (Howard, Tutt, Thorne, Skinner)
                        - Unnecessary trades, Sherman, Djekurra and the price we paid for them.

                        Mistakes will always be made and you can't get everything right but we have a knack of stuffing things up when we are in a good position better than any other club.
                        Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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                        • AndrewP6
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 8142

                          #72
                          Re: Terry Wallace says - Current team Weakest since 1996 team.

                          Originally posted by The Doctor


                          - Allowing 2 of our best youngsters Ward and Harbrow to leave (Fantasia Dept)

                          Mistakes will always be made and you can't get everything right but we have a knack of stuffing things up when we are in a good position better than any other club.
                          I'm not sure Fantasia and Co. just 'allowed' them to leave. Short of bankrupting the club (twice) what more could've been done? Harbrow left for mon...er, his family and girlfriend, and Ward left for mon...er, the next part of his "football journey"
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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66785

                            #73
                            Re: Terry Wallace says - Current team Weakest since 1996 team.

                            Originally posted by AndrewP6
                            I'm not sure Fantasia and Co. just 'allowed' them to leave. Short of bankrupting the club (twice) what more could've been done? Harbrow left for mon...er, his family and girlfriend, and Ward left for mon...er, the next part of his "football journey"
                            but why didn't Essendon, Carlton and Collingwood lose anyone? Its a matter of how you negotiate and how you treat a player and the environment you create in the club.
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                            • AndrewP6
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 8142

                              #74
                              Re: Terry Wallace says - Current team Weakest since 1996 team.

                              Originally posted by bornadog
                              but why didn't Essendon, Carlton and Collingwood lose anyone? Its a matter of how you negotiate and how you treat a player and the environment you create in the club.
                              Or perhaps how underhandedly they work deals to be able to keep players there (Mr Visy Ambassador, anyone?)
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                              • Hotdog60
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 5913

                                #75
                                Re: Terry Wallace says - Current team Weakest since 1996 team.

                                We should have got in early with Ward, if we valued him as a future player we should have extended his contract well before GWS came sniffing. The club knew about the expansion clubs coming in and should have acted to sign up our future stars.
                                Don't piss off old people
                                The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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