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  • Ghost Dog
    WOOF Member
    • May 2010
    • 9404

    Credit where it is due

    Last night a great deal many individuals who are often potted on these forums had amazing match day moments. These are not consistent efforts over a period of time, granted.
    However, time to identify which player often frustrates you, and why they surprised you last night.

    Was out of my seat with Easton Wood's game. The obvious turnaround in form.

    Cross was great last night, and was an important player. Someone mentioned 91% by foot. Well done Crossy.
    You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus
  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    #2
    Re: Credit where it is due

    Too much credit I believe. Great effort but we lost.

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    • Ghost Dog
      WOOF Member
      • May 2010
      • 9404

      #3
      Re: Credit where it is due

      Originally posted by Chops
      Too much credit I believe. Great effort but we lost.
      If fans are only going to measure our performance on a few turnovers and missed set shots, then it's a cheap sort of analysis. Several of our players won their battle last night. In some cases it was surprising.
      You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        #4
        Re: Credit where it is due

        Mark Austin just knuckled down and competed with Dawes , got out positioned a couple of times and was caught out by Dawes ability to tap to advantage but he justified the faith in him to get the job done , we threw him a lifeline to get his career back on track , with Williams out and Markovic out we needed another tall defender to shoulder the load and Mark certainly took up the challenge




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        • always right
          WOOF Member
          • Nov 2007
          • 4189

          #5
          Re: Credit where it is due

          Originally posted by Chops
          Too much credit I believe. Great effort but we lost.
          Hope we're not going down the old path of criticizing supporters for accepting mediocrity again. Reality is most on this board expected a humiliation last night including me. Was pleasantly surprised in the performance. Still a long way to go but I think most are simply looking for continuous improvement.

          Next week will tell the real story. We need to back up that effort with more of the same.
          I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.

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          • Cyberdoggie
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 2859

            #6
            Re: Credit where it is due

            Originally posted by craigsahibee
            There weren't too many passengers last night.

            Crossy's efficiency by foot was by far his best ever. Addison was great. Wood's best game for the season by far but sadly will be missing for a month. Lake's confidence and self belief grew as the game progressed. Not happy with the result but the effort was fantastic.

            Need to back it up now.
            Except for the howler that gave them the game.

            Can add Murphy, Cross and Higgins in there with those poor errors in defence.

            Having said that the game was over in the last quarter when we stopped try to move the ball through the middle and just banged it on the boot whenever we got it, gifting it to the pies.

            A lot to be positive about for once this year though.

            Now if we can only find a tall forward who can take a grab, Jones has lost his mojo and needs to go back to Willy. If i had a dollar for every time he leaped at the ball underneath the flight i'd be rich.

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            • Ghost Dog
              WOOF Member
              • May 2010
              • 9404

              #7
              Re: Credit where it is due

              Originally posted by Cyberdoggie
              Except for the howler that gave them the game.

              Can add Murphy, Cross and Higgins in there with those poor errors in defence.

              Having said that the game was over in the last quarter when we stopped try to move the ball through the middle and just banged it on the boot whenever we got it, gifting it to the pies.

              A lot to be positive about for once this year though.

              Now if we can only find a tall forward who can take a grab, Jones has lost his mojo and needs to go back to Willy. If i had a dollar for every time he leaped at the ball underneath the flight i'd be rich.
              Jones is young and gets pushed under the ball a lot. I would prefer not to drop him, play him further up on the wing or closer to the square - go with a small forward line as we did last night.
              Dropping him is just an easy way out. He needs as much game time as possible. KF players are just too rare to skimp on their development.
              You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                #8
                Re: Credit where it is due

                Originally posted by always right
                Hope we're not going down the old path of criticizing supporters for accepting mediocrity again. Reality is most on this board expected a humiliation last night including me. Was pleasantly surprised in the performance. Still a long way to go but I think most are simply looking for continuous improvement.

                Next week will tell the real story. We need to back up that effort with more of the same.
                You are mistaking me if you I'm one of the accept mediocrity brigade. I was pleased with the effort but would take an ugly win over a spirited loss every time.

                The fact is you measure the performance on win or losses. Credit for the effort only to a point.

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                • Eastdog
                  WOOF Communtiy Organiser
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 18286

                  #9
                  Re: Credit where it is due

                  A lot of positives from that game last night. Lake, Hargrave, Murph and Wood all played good games in defence. Our Mids Cross, Griff, and Boyd were very good as well. The forward line was the downfall but Gia worked and kicked a couple. Jones I think we criticise him a lot but I say his only 20 and can become a good player if he inprooves his kicking as he is a good contested mark. What pleased me the most was the effort shown. That is what I expect when we come out each week.
                  "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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                  • Missing Dog
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8501

                    #10
                    Re: Credit where it is due

                    Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                    Jones is young and gets pushed under the ball a lot. I would prefer not to drop him, play him further up on the wing or closer to the square - go with a small forward line as we did last night.
                    Dropping him is just an easy way out. He needs as much game time as possible. KF players are just too rare to skimp on their development.
                    I'd love to see Jonesy play CHF & give young Tommy Hill a run at FF..but hey, I'm a female, what would I know

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                    • Eastdog
                      WOOF Communtiy Organiser
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 18286

                      #11
                      Re: Credit where it is due

                      Originally posted by OLD SCRAGGer
                      I'd love to see Jonesy play CHF & give young Tommy Hill a run at FF..but hey, I'm a female, what would I know
                      It would be good to see Tommy Hill play at FF. He is a tall player and would suite up forward.
                      "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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                      • westdog54
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 6686

                        #12
                        Re: Credit where it is due

                        Originally posted by Chops
                        You are mistaking me if you I'm one of the accept mediocrity brigade. I was pleased with the effort but would take an ugly win over a spirited loss every time.

                        The fact is you measure the performance on win or losses. Credit for the effort only to a point.
                        I had to re-readboth posts a few times, but Chops is right. He hates the 'accepting mediocrity' mantra and fires up whenever it is brought up.

                        Having said that, given what we'd seen in the last month or so, mediocrity would have been an improvement.

                        I said in the preview thread that if we couldn't keep their half backs accountable it was game over. While Shaw played well I thought O'Brien and Maxwell were non factors, so hats off to our half forwards in that regard.

                        I put the 'Anchor' tag on Addison but I thought he completed reasonably well. I'm still unsure of whether he'll still be on the list at years end but he gets a pass mark.

                        Its never easy to come on as a Sub, but Wallis' endeavour at the contest last night was heartening. Another hint that he'll make it as a quality footballer.

                        Easton, Easton, Easton, you poor bastard. You finally show the brilliance as a running half back that we know your capable of, then your hammy goes. Getter better soon and lets see more of the same. When he took that pack mark in the 2nd I had to do a double take to make sure it was him.

                        Crossy played his best game in a long time, his disposal and decision making were excellent and the grunt side of his game was still there. Couldn't be happier.

                        Mark Austin battled bravely against a very strong full forward and I was happy with how he went.

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                        • EasternWest
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 10002

                          #13
                          Re: Credit where it is due

                          Originally posted by westdog54
                          Its never easy to come on as a Sub, but Wallis' endeavour at the contest last night was heartening. Another hint that he'll make it as a quality footballer.
                          Provided his form warrants it, my preference would be for Wallis to play every game. He seems to have improved in every aspect of his game and I think his development will skyrocket if he can get some continuity at the top level. Looks to have turned a corner IMO, and is a player in the making.
                          "It's over. It's all over."

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                          • Desipura
                            WOOF Member
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 4344

                            #14
                            Re: Credit where it is due

                            I hope we are not going down the path of clapping our team off the ground after a creditable loss.

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                            • Ghost Dog
                              WOOF Member
                              • May 2010
                              • 9404

                              #15
                              Re: Credit where it is due

                              Originally posted by Desipura
                              I hope we are not going down the path of clapping our team off the ground after a creditable loss.
                              Some fans subscribe to a 'winning the game is everything " mentality. But there are individual wins as well. The player who wins his own personal game. There are other threads, if the mood in this one is not to your liking folks! Feel free to find one better suited to your supporting philosophy.
                              You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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