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  • Desipura
    WOOF Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 4344

    #16
    Re: Credit where it is due

    Regardless of whether the thread is to my liking or not, I have every right to give my opinion, or would you only prefer people to respond when they agree with you?

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    • LostDoggy
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8307

      #17
      Re: Credit where it is due

      Originally posted by Ghost Dog
      Some fans subscribe to a 'winning the game is everything " mentality. But there are individual wins as well. The player who wins his own personal game. There are other threads if the mood in this one is not to your liking.
      What's this 'individual wins'? Is it tennis or golf?
      It's a team game. Who barracks for one player?

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      • SonofScray
        Coaching Staff
        • Apr 2008
        • 4234

        #18
        Re: Credit where it is due

        Originally posted by Desipura
        I hope we are not going down the path of clapping our team off the ground after a creditable loss.
        Agree, those days are gone surely? Not so much the clapping off but the idea that keeping up with the 'big' clubs is an achievement. That being said, I think you can acknowledge the effort without actually accepting the defeat.

        There were some very solid individual performances.
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        • F'scary
          WOOF Member
          • Dec 2011
          • 4089

          #19
          Re: Credit where it is due

          I agree whole heartedly that we should not accept mediocrity by being happy with creditable losses.

          However, because of our form to round 5, I was really pleased to see how well the Doggies went last night, they defied the predictions of the "experts" and they played like they wanted to win, got pipped late but I reckon if they can perform to that standard every week and keep improving a bit we'll be back as a side that wins more than it loses.
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          • Ghost Dog
            WOOF Member
            • May 2010
            • 9404

            #20
            Re: Credit where it is due

            Originally posted by Desipura
            Regardless of whether the thread is to my liking or not, I have every right to give my opinion, or would you only prefer people to respond when they agree with you?
            That's right. And others have the right to cheer an honorable loss. So why knock them for it?
            You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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            • Desipura
              WOOF Member
              • Mar 2008
              • 4344

              #21
              Re: Credit where it is due

              Originally posted by SonofScray
              Agree, those days are gone surely? Not so much the clapping off but the idea that keeping up with the 'big' clubs is an achievement. That being said, I think you can acknowledge the effort without actually accepting the defeat.

              There were some very solid individual performances.
              I totally agree with this. Not sure where I was criticizing anyone

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              • Mofra
                Hall of Fame
                • Dec 2006
                • 14946

                #22
                Re: Credit where it is due

                Good thread.

                I hope we're not back to the simplistic "we lost, therefore our entire team is shit" vs "we won, everything is wonderful" argument.

                There are positives in a loss as much as there are negatives in a win - nothing wrong with acknowledging both.
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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66697

                  #23
                  Re: Credit where it is due

                  Originally posted by Desipura
                  I hope we are not going down the path of clapping our team off the ground after a creditable loss.
                  Apparently Macca was pissed off when some fans were clapping the team off the ground.

                  We lost and I hate that, especially when it was winnable.
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                  • Ghost Dog
                    WOOF Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 9404

                    #24
                    Re: Credit where it is due

                    Originally posted by Chops
                    What's this 'individual wins'? Is it tennis or golf?
                    It's a team game. Who barracks for one player?
                    Oh so when we lose from now on, you will not be picking out individuals for criticism. After all, it is a team game
                    You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                    • Desipura
                      WOOF Member
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 4344

                      #25
                      Re: Credit where it is due

                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      Apparently Macca was pissed off when some fans were clapping the team off the ground.

                      We lost and I hate that, especially when it was winnable.
                      There you go, I'm not the only one.

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                      • Ghost Dog
                        WOOF Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 9404

                        #26
                        Re: Credit where it is due

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        Apparently Macca was pissed off when some fans were clapping the team off the ground.

                        We lost and I hate that, especially when it was winnable.

                        Press conf suggests otherwise.
                        You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                        • Ghost Dog
                          WOOF Member
                          • May 2010
                          • 9404

                          #27
                          Re: Credit where it is due

                          Originally posted by Desipura
                          There you go, I'm not the only one.
                          No proof he thought this. Just what someone thought someone else said or did.
                          The presser was quite balanced, and the tone positive. As in keeping with the overall game.
                          You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66697

                            #28
                            Re: Credit where it is due

                            Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                            Press conf suggests otherwise.
                            Listening to him on the radio and also Chris Grant is different than what you are saying.
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                            • Eastdog
                              WOOF Communtiy Organiser
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 18286

                              #29
                              Re: Credit where it is due

                              I 100% agree that when we lose it is not a good thing at all and that we need to see areas we need to improve but as Ghost Dog has said at the same time I do agree that you can have a gallant defeat like the one we had last night and still be fairly happy walking away from the ground. The problem for me is we just don't have those 'match winners' in our team and that is one thing that let us down in us not winning because we were with the Pies for the whole night.
                              "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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                              • Ghost Dog
                                WOOF Member
                                • May 2010
                                • 9404

                                #30
                                Re: Credit where it is due

                                Originally posted by Desipura
                                I totally agree with this. Not sure where I was criticizing anyone
                                "Surely we are not going back to the days of celebrating an honorable loss"
                                That sounds like something you would rather fans didn't.
                                You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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