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  • Maddog37
    WOOF Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 3132

    #46
    Re: Bring Me Fantasia's Head.

    Originally posted by Chops
    Just shut down the entire board down then.

    Let's just praise them for a great year instead.

    That's more like it. I knew you had some positive thoughts in you.

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    • Maddog37
      WOOF Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 3132

      #47
      Re: Bring Me Fantasia's Head.

      Originally posted by Topdog
      There have been plenty of positive suggestions but you seem far too deep in lala land to notice them.


      Why thans for the kind words TD.

      By the way, might be time to change your sig. It hurts every time I read it.

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      • Greystache
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Dec 2009
        • 9775

        #48
        Re: Bring Me Fantasia's Head.

        Originally posted by Savage
        The "be patient it will happen one" is not working either. This forum are two groups, the ones that want change as we see the issues and the other is the apathetic "she be all right mate in the long run" group.

        Where is the happy medium.

        Do we get blood on the sword and rid us of someone, anyone to make us feel better, if so who (not looking at you Fantasia), or do we just sit back and hope for the best as we always have done.

        My views are clear, Chops and I both dont sit on the fence, tell it how it is. The time for a big culture shift is now. We all want success and see it in differing formats.

        Human nature says none of us will ever be happy with what we see or get but we must take a stand and make it loud and clear that we expect more. Granted our kids are young and it will come, but at what expense.

        I am very concerned about our future, I dont want to be a struglling club anymore.
        We changed almost the entire coaching group last year, they'll be another change this year. Should we sack a coach every year we don't improve?

        The recruiter's only had 3 drafts and we have no idea who will make it out of those players yet. The previous recruiter who was very poor has moved on. Should we sack our current recruiter to make a statement to our previous one?

        Maybe we should hire someone and immediately sack him so short sighted supporters will feel better?

        We took a lot of short term decisions because it was believed we could win a flag in our cyclical up period, we're paying the price for those decisions now. Most people saw this coming and were critical of tho se decisions at the time. Our drop off this session has been sharp and disappointing, but I believe we are expediting the rebuild process rather than drag it or over several season to keep supporters happy by finishing 10th.

        Or of course we could sack Fantasia and the world will be right.
        [COLOR="#FF0000"][B]Western Bulldogs:[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR="#0000CD"][B]We exist to win premierships[/B][/COLOR]

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        • Sockeye Salmon
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jan 2007
          • 6365

          #49
          Re: Bring Me Fantasia's Head.

          Originally posted by Savage
          The "be patient it will happen one" is not working either. This forum are two groups, the ones that want change as we see the issues and the other is the apathetic "she be all right mate in the long run" group.

          Where is the happy medium.

          Do we get blood on the sword and rid us of someone, anyone to make us feel better, if so who (not looking at you Fantasia), or do we just sit back and hope for the best as we always have done.

          My views are clear, Chops and I both dont sit on the fence, tell it how it is. The time for a big culture shift is now. We all want success and see it in differing formats.

          Human nature says none of us will ever be happy with what we see or get but we must take a stand and make it loud and clear that we expect more. Granted our kids are young and it will come, but at what expense.

          I am very concerned about our future, I dont want to be a struggling club anymore.
          I don't want change for the sake of change, we did that last year. I want to fix the horrible mistake we made.

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          • Ghost Dog
            WOOF Member
            • May 2010
            • 9404

            #50
            Re: Bring Me Fantasia's Head.

            Originally posted by The Underdog
            Unsuccessful year then, finishing 12th.
            I'd be more than happy to see Fantasia on the way out, although J. McCartney's list management position may help lessen the errors of the past. If he's any good at it that is.
            Our list management and drafting this year will be absolutely critical. First step is getting the early first round picks right, but we need a really good percentage of our picks this year to work out. This is a critical career defining year for Dalrymple.
            Unsuccessful because of ladder pos? or capitualtion ?
            I don't mind a string of very narrow losses. But to lose by so much, so many times can only boil down to three things.
            Poor selection, Poor effort (Coaching or playing ) or both.
            You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              #51
              Re: Bring Me Fantasia's Head.

              Originally posted by azabob
              Clayton is more to blame for our current list / drafting more so than Dalrymple.
              If that's the case you can say Clayton brought us to 3 prelims as well.
              In 3 Dalrymple drafts how many hits and misses has he had?

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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                #52
                Re: Bring Me Fantasia's Head.

                Originally posted by Remi Moses
                Jesus mate, getting a little stale that line.
                Yes and before you reciprocate with " You're to positive " line
                I've been critical of our pathetic efforts.
                I just don't subscribe to the pitch fork mob mentality
                If you don't like it don't read it.
                I was responding directly to one poster not you.
                Not like I'm the only one that's thinks we need a change.

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                • whythelongface
                  Coaching Staff
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 4487

                  #53
                  Re: Bring Me Fantasia's Head.

                  Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                  Unsuccessful because of ladder pos? or capitualtion ?
                  I don't mind a string of very narrow losses. But to lose by so much, so many times can only boil down to three things.
                  Poor selection, Poor effort (Coaching or playing ) or both.
                  You can add poor list management as well. The coaching team can only do so much with the cattle they have. The coach's biggest issue is that he overstated the list at the start of his reign.

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                  • ledge
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 14309

                    #54
                    Re: Bring Me Fantasia's Head.

                    Originally posted by whythelongface
                    You can add poor list management as well. The coaching team can only do so much with the cattle they have. The coach's biggest issue is that he overstated the list at the start of his reign.
                    Agree^ also like to add the last recruiter hasn't had a lot to choose from in high draft picks due to us making 3 prelims
                    Bring back the biff

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                    • Maddog37
                      WOOF Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 3132

                      #55
                      Re: Bring Me Fantasia's Head.

                      So bottom line, get rid of Fantasia and the coach and recruiter get one more year to show something.

                      Is that what people want?

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                      • ledge
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 14309

                        #56
                        Re: Bring Me Fantasia's Head.

                        Originally posted by Maddog37
                        So bottom line, get rid of Fantasia and the coach and recruiter get one more year to show something.

                        Is that what people want?
                        I am actually not wanting to sack anyone I want to see how Jason McCartneys choices work out in his first year. They say he is great with recognising talent.
                        Bring back the biff

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                        • whythelongface
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 4487

                          #57
                          Re: Bring Me Fantasia's Head.

                          Originally posted by Maddog37
                          So bottom line, get rid of Fantasia and the coach and recruiter get one more year to show something.

                          Is that what people want?
                          You can probably divide what people want into a couple categories:

                          1. Those that want to get rid of Fantasia and McCartney immediately;
                          2. Those that want to get rid of Fantasia immediately and reassess McCartney's position at the end of next year.

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                          • Maddog37
                            WOOF Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 3132

                            #58
                            Re: Bring Me Fantasia's Head.

                            Anyone read in the Sun today about a potential board spill due the the unsatisfactory heavy losses?

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                            • ledge
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 14309

                              #59
                              Re: Bring Me Fantasia's Head.

                              Originally posted by Maddog37
                              Anyone read in the Sun today about a potential board spill due the the unsatisfactory heavy losses?
                              Is that just a reporter making a story or is their facts involved?
                              Bring back the biff

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                              • Maddog37
                                WOOF Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 3132

                                #60
                                Re: Bring Me Fantasia's Head.

                                Page 80. Comment section of super ladder. No detail, I just found it strange to read it in such a throw away manner. John Anderson is the author.

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