2012 Draft - Who do you like?

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  • azabob
    Hall of Fame
    • Sep 2008
    • 15481

    #481
    Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

    Originally posted by Ghost Dog
    Sorry Remi, what do you mean, Risk reward policy?
    Menzel and Stringer have huge amount of ability but are both under serious injury concern. If not for their injuries the talk is they would be picked early on.
    More of an In Bruges guy?

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    • bulldogsthru&thru
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • May 2011
      • 8048

      #482
      Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

      Originally posted by azabob
      Menzel and Stringer have huge amount of ability but are both under serious injury concern. If not for their injuries the talk is they would be picked early on.
      Stringer was touted top 3 prior to doing his leg (albeit that call was premature as it was a long way out from the draft)

      Menzel i assume would have been top 5 but he did his at 16.

      I wouldnt mind if we picked one of them but both would be too risky.

      I'm hoping Stringer and O'Rourke but wouldnt be unhappy with Menzel. Funnily enough i trust BMac's decisions when it comes to recruitment.

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      • chef
        Hall of Fame
        • Nov 2008
        • 14746

        #483
        Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

        Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
        Stringer was touted top 3 prior to doing his leg (albeit that call was premature as it was a long way out from the draft)

        Menzel i assume would have been top 5 but he did his at 16.

        I wouldnt mind if we picked one of them but both would be too risky.

        I'm hoping Stringer and O'Rourke but wouldnt be unhappy with Menzel. Funnily enough i trust BMac's decisions when it comes to recruitment.
        It's not up to him.
        The curse is dead.

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        • wimberga
          WOOF Member
          • Nov 2007
          • 851

          #484
          Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

          Originally posted by chef
          It's not up to him.
          You are right Chef, though he does seemingly have a large amount of input (see last years first rounder).

          I also have faith in Macca and feel more confident in him being able to pick the players to play his style.

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          • chef
            Hall of Fame
            • Nov 2008
            • 14746

            #485
            Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

            Originally posted by wimberga
            You are right Chef, though he does seemingly have a large amount of input (see last years first rounder).

            I also have faith in Macca and feel more confident in him being able to pick the players to play his style.
            He had a say in the type, but not the player. Dalrymple chose between Kerridge and Smith who he rated as the best inside mids still available at our pick.
            The curse is dead.

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            • bulldogsthru&thru
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • May 2011
              • 8048

              #486
              Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

              Originally posted by chef
              It's not up to him.
              He would have a large say. I'm sure prior to the draft the team determines who they are after. Maybe on draft day if it doesn't pan out as hoped the recruitment team determines who they pick but I'm sure the coach almost has the final say/approval on who to draft pre draft day

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              • Go_Dogs
                Hall of Fame
                • Jan 2007
                • 10251

                #487
                Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

                Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
                He would have a large say. I'm sure prior to the draft the team determines who they are after. Maybe on draft day if it doesn't pan out as hoped the recruitment team determines who they pick but I'm sure the coach almost has the final say/approval on who to draft pre draft day
                I'm not sure about that. I think the coaching staff would set an agenda of needs and the types we want, but it is up to the recruiter to identify the players that best fit the need/type we want and they would have the final say. I'm sure the recruiting staff and list manager would also be heavily involved in the discussions with the coaching staff for the need/type we most want too.

                I'm not sure however whether our character assessments and the criteria we ultimately rank potential draftees on is something the coach has developed himself, or something all the key departments have been involved in. It's an all in process, but I think our new coach is perhaps slightly more involved in the process than Eade was - hard to say though - either way, I think we're heading in the right direction and we've nailed some decent selections over the past couple of years.
                Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 45548

                  #488
                  Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

                  Originally posted by chef
                  It's not up to him.
                  I want a coach to back his recruiters but he also has to have some say in proceedings. I'd like to think he has talked to the top 6 or 7 guys at the very least given the position in the draft where we are selecting from.
                  Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                  • Sockeye Salmon
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 6365

                    #489
                    Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

                    Originally posted by GVGjr
                    I want a coach to back his recruiters but he also has to have some say in proceedings. I'd like to think he has talked to the top 6 or 7 guys at the very least given the position in the draft where we are selecting from.
                    The coach has an input on what type of player he would like.

                    Eade asked Dalrymple for half backs who could kick and Dalrymple gave him Howard and Tutt.

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                    • GVGjr
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 45548

                      #490
                      Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

                      Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                      The coach has an input on what type of player he would like.

                      Eade asked Dalrymple for half backs who could kick and Dalrymple gave him Howard and Tutt.
                      Given they weren't the better known names I'm sure he would have also done his own due diligence as well.
                      Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                      • F'scary
                        WOOF Member
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 4089

                        #491
                        Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

                        Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                        The coach has an input on what type of player he would like.

                        Eade asked Dalrymple for half backs who could kick and Dalrymple gave him Howard and Tutt.
                        Did Dalrymple mishear Eade and thought he said "I want half-backs who can't get a kick." That however does not explain the selection of Tutt who has not even been played as a half-back.
                        Officially on the Bus-wagon

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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          #492
                          Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

                          Originally posted by GVGjr
                          I want a coach to back his recruiters but he also has to have some say in proceedings. I'd like to think he has talked to the top 6 or 7 guys at the very least given the position in the draft where we are selecting from.
                          Think there are several people from each club at the combine interviewing their likely selections. I would assume (certainly hope) BMac was part of the team doing that process? Anyone have any insight into who attends the combine?

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                          • SlimPickens
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 2929

                            #493
                            Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

                            Originally posted by Superdog
                            Think there are several people from each club at the combine interviewing their likely selections. I would assume (certainly hope) BMac was part of the team doing that process? Anyone have any insight into who attends the combine?
                            All senior coaches were in attendance at the combine. Also saw Bmac at various carnival games mid year.
                            "Loves a scrap....oh yeah & he's a pretty handy footballer as well"

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                            • wimberga
                              WOOF Member
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 851

                              #494
                              Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

                              How would people feel if Grundy slipper through to our picks? It's possible as GWS has been reported to be following a Sydney model of trading for ruckman as opposed to drafting them, though its hard to know for sure.

                              Would people consider him with one of our first rounders? in some ways hes not what we need but if you just want to get the best players possible we would have to seriously consider taking him, surely?

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                              • Throughandthrough
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 3207

                                #495
                                Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

                                Originally posted by wimberga
                                How would people feel if Grundy slipper through to our picks? It's possible as GWS has been reported to be following a Sydney model of trading for ruckman as opposed to drafting them, though its hard to know for sure.

                                Would people consider him with one of our first rounders? in some ways hes not what we need but if you just want to get the best players possible we would have to seriously consider taking him, surely?

                                Sh+t yes.

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