2012 Draft - Who do you like?

[LostDoggy]

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Stringer looked good for the gold last week. Bit like a Ziebel type, dosn't look lost playing against men

[GVGjr]

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Having watched a bit of the SANFL this year I have been taken by Paul Marschall from Central Districts.

He is 20 & has a mature body and from what I've seen on the SANFL replays is a really good kick who uses the ball well, and can take contested marks.

He has been playing in the seniors most of the year & with a frame of 189cm & 90kg, would be a good chance of being able to play seniors straight away.

Averging 17 possessions a game at 80% efficency, playing mainly off HB from what I could gather.

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I talked about him to a few others last week. He would be worth taking a chance on.

Assuming we don't position ourselves for the mini draft, for picks 5 and 6 I would have the following players in the mix:
Plowman because he very good defender and has agility. Might be the sort of player that could cover Murphy and or Morris.
Garlett and Simpson because they are line breakers and Menzel because he can score goals.

I like Vlastin and Wines but they lack a step of pace for our side.

[LostDoggy]

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To be frank, I don't think next year's Pick #1 will get the job done to get Patton

I don't want to take a good thread sideways but can anyone tell me the rule after the first two years on a list? If Patton simply won't sign GWS again and we have built a warchest to get him to the dogs (which we will have end 2013 with more retirements) + we have Pick#1 in the draft doesn't that mean if Patton wants both Melbourne based and the cash, GWS can either take pick 1 and be greatful or Patton goes in the draft and we take him anyway?

Been searching the web for 2 days for an answer on this and I can't find a ruling on the players next contract after their first 2 years from being drafted. If the above is right, and we do totally bottom next year, we should have a little person waving a big bag of cash at Patton's manager continuously next year.

Yes its a pipedream but its not unrealisable given he seems currently reluctant to resign with GWS.

[Go_Dogs]

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Nice post mjp, thanks. Going to be very interesting to see where Garlett ends up.

I see Kennedy as a legit midfielder - T&T, would you agree?

[Go_Dogs]

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I talked about him to a few others last week. He would be worth taking a chance on.

I can confirm that. My only concern is he doesn't find a heap of the ball and (in my mind) does his best work receiving rather than winning his own ball. One to keep an eye on over the next few weeks for sure, think there will be some interest late 3rd round onwards.

[westdog54]

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I don't want to take a good thread sideways but can anyone tell me the rule after the first two years on a list? If Patton simply won't sign GWS again and we have built a warchest to get him to the dogs (which we will have end 2013 with more retirements) + we have Pick#1 in the draft doesn't that mean if Patton wants both Melbourne based and the cash, GWS can either take pick 1 and be greatful or Patton goes in the draft and we take him anyway?

Been searching the web for 2 days for an answer on this and I can't find a ruling on the players next contract after their first 2 years from being drafted. If the above is right, and we do totally bottom next year, we should have a little person waving a big bag of cash at Patton's manager continuously next year.

Yes its a pipedream but its not unrealisable given he seems currently reluctant to resign with GWS.

If Patton and GWS don't get a deal done but they want to retain his service he must nominate for the draft or seek a trade. The only way he can walk as a free agent is if they delist him.

FWIW I don't see us being worse next year.

[Desipura]

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I think Stringer will be one of our picks.

[Mofra]

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We have made public statements over who the sort of player we'd like so (even ignoring rumours) we have:

* J-Mac on record as saying he'd like some big-bodied midfielders on the list
* B-Mac saying he wants a mid-sized forward who "does everything"

So far it sounds like we're picking Stringer twice

I know we've got some young KPDs on our list and BF descriptions can be taken with a grain of salt, but a few have linked us to Plowman. The descriptions seem to indicate he's an excellent rebounder, something we sorely lack. At 191cm he's Morris height so he may be fairly versatile as well.

Given B-Mac's input last year, the skinny athlete who doesn't compete well is probably not going to be considered.

[ledge]

Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

We have made public statements over who the sort of player we'd like so (even ignoring rumours) we have:

* J-Mac on record as saying he'd like some big-bodied midfielders on the list
* B-Mac saying he wants a mid-sized forward who "does everything"

So far it sounds like we're picking Stringer twice

I know we've got some young KPDs on our list and BF descriptions can be taken with a grain of salt, but a few have linked us to Plowman. The descriptions seem to indicate he's an excellent rebounder, something we sorely lack. At 191cm he's Morris height so he may be fairly versatile as well.

Given B-Mac's input last year, the skinny athlete who doesn't compete well is probably not going to be considered.

Definitely a change of tact with MAcca we used to go young and try and build now it's get the ones with a build and hungry

[Greystache]

Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

We have made public statements over who the sort of player we'd like so (even ignoring rumours) we have:

Given B-Mac's input last year, the skinny athlete who doesn't compete well is probably not going to be considered.

Thank God! We took that approach for a decade and saw virtually no good results from it.

Power, Walsh, Grant, Everitt, McMahon, and that's just the first round picks!

[LongWait]

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I think Stringer will be one of our picks.

Agree Desi. Got a feeling it'll be Mayes and Stringer - purely on gut. BMac would surely like Wines as well but that may be reaching with pick 6.

[LostDoggy]

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Thank God! We took that approach for a decade and saw virtually no good results from it.

Power, Walsh, Grant, Everitt, McMahon, and that's just the first round picks!

Farren Ray says hello!

[Ghost Dog]

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I talked about him to a few others last week. He would be worth taking a chance on.

Assuming we don't position ourselves for the mini draft, for picks 5 and 6 I would have the following players in the mix:
Plowman because he very good defender and has agility. Might be the sort of player that could cover Murphy and or Morris.
Garlett and Simpson because they are line breakers and Menzel because he can score goals.

I like Vlastin and Wines but they lack a step of pace for our side.

Is this Garlett related to Carlton's bloke?

[Mofra]

Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

Thank God! We took that approach for a decade and saw virtually no good results from it.

Power, Walsh, Grant, Everitt, McMahon, and that's just the first round picks!

There's always the perceived risk that bigger bodied types do well at junior level because of a size advantage - yet guys like Hawkins, Jordan Lewis, Shannon Hurn have all kicked on well.

Clayton used to say "it's easier to build size than talent" - his legacy with us suggests it's not so easy.

[ledge]

Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

There's always the perceived risk that bigger bodied types do well at junior level because of a size advantage - yet guys like Hawkins, Jordan Lewis, Shannon Hurn have all kicked on well.

Clayton used to say "it's easier to build size than talent" - his legacy with us suggests it's not so easy.

Maccas is simple get them with both