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  • Danny the snakeman
    WOOF Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 398

    #61
    Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

    His manager is about to come on SEN.

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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 66703

      #62
      Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

      Originally posted by Danny the snakeman
      His manager is about to come on SEN.
      To spin another story
      FFC: Established 1883

      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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      • LongWait
        WOOF Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 936

        #63
        Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

        Originally posted by always right
        For some it won't matter unfortunately.
        Sadly you are very right. It's a tough commercial world and free agency has made it even tougher.

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        • WB4Life

          #64
          Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

          Originally posted by shifty
          From a football point of view i completely understand this trade, with FA coming there, fans will have to accept loyalty is dead, which goes both ways (see Ward).
          However with a bad start to next year, i think we could struggle to crack 25,000 members. The type of fans who expected us to make finals last year and wanted BMac fired 10 weeks in probably won't renew (if any of them were) after today
          Finacially we need all the help we can get, but in my opinion if they don't renew there not supporters anyway. we'll see them in 4-7 when we've turned things around...

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          • Ozza
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Mar 2008
            • 6401

            #65
            Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

            Originally posted by bornadog
            Thats just his opinion, good clubs keep their Champions through managing them and their contracts.
            He may have been a champion player (for a few years), and yeah - you'd love to keep him in a perfect world - but he wanted to go. He showed scant regard for the club last time he was negotiationg a contract, and showed the club similar regard this time around by saying he would leave next year anyway.

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            • Dry Rot
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jan 2007
              • 6444

              #66
              Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

              If we piss their pick 21 on Dawes, the club house will be burned down
              The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 66703

                #67
                Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

                Originally posted by Ozza
                He may have been a champion player (for a few years), and yeah - you'd love to keep him in a perfect world - but he wanted to go. He showed scant regard for the club last time he was negotiationg a contract, and showed the club similar regard this time around by saying he would leave next year anyway.
                Sorry mate, can't agree with this? When did he say he would leave next year? Thats just bullshit from Marty Pask who has spun a story to get Brian to move and he can get more commission.

                Our coach has told a two time AA fullback that he won't be playing fullback any more, so what the hell is Brian to do?
                FFC: Established 1883

                Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                • Dry Rot
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 6444

                  #68
                  Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

                  Originally posted by LongWait
                  Listening to Marty Pask on TWR - they have clearly given an ultimatum to the club: trade Lake to the club of his choice now, or lose him at the end of next season and good luck with whatever compensation you hope you get.
                  Lake was well paid, but determined to leave. I wonder why?

                  Shame we couldn't send him to Carlton.
                  The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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                  • always right
                    WOOF Member
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 4189

                    #69
                    Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

                    Originally posted by Dry Rot
                    If we piss their pick 21 on Dawes, the club house will be burned down
                    I'll provide the matches.
                    I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 66703

                      #70
                      Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

                      Originally posted by Dry Rot
                      If we piss their pick 21 on Dawes, the club house will be burned down
                      I bet you anything, right now that is what we will do.
                      FFC: Established 1883

                      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                      • Sedat
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 11248

                        #71
                        Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

                        Originally posted by LongWait
                        Sadly you are very right. It's a tough commercial world and free agency has made it even tougher.
                        I'm presuming you are able to distinguish the actual trading of Lake (not an unfathomable option considering his age profile) with the compensation received, not to mention the haste with which the trade was agreed to by the club?

                        Negotiating is an artform and a skill that Scott Clayton was exceptional at - we have missed this skill so badly in recent years, and the haste of this Lake trade only reinforces that. He is under contract and we blinked at the first offer, 1 day into a 21 day trade period.
                        "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                        • chef
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 14618

                          #72
                          Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          Sorry mate, can't agree with this? When did he say he would leave next year? Thats just bullshit from Marty Pask who has spun a story to get Brian to move and he can get more commission.

                          Our coach has told a two time AA fullback that he won't be playing fullback any more, so what the hell is Brian to do?
                          Aren't we in development mode?

                          How are we meant to find our next FB if thats the only position Brian wants to play.
                          The curse is dead.

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            #73
                            Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

                            Originally posted by Dry Rot
                            If we piss their pick 21 on Dawes, the club house will be burned down
                            JMac said no more trading we are done....phew. (I assume unless something great comes up ie not Dawes)

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                            • EasternWest
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 10002

                              #74
                              Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

                              I'm in two minds over this.

                              Personally, I'm a bit gutted to see Brian leave.

                              But it's a damn bold move by the club. Time will tell if its the right move.

                              It's a coup for Hawthorn, their window is open, and he's got a couple of years in him.
                              "It's over. It's all over."

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                              • Dry Rot
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 6444

                                #75
                                Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

                                Originally posted by always right
                                I'll provide the matches.
                                I'll meet you with the petrol.
                                The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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