Brian Lake to Hawthorn

[Desipura]

Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

Whilst I'm struggling somewhat to rationalise why we needed to give up our pick 27 to make this deal happen can I at least share with you a snapshot of what our table, which did include some past greats of our Club, observed at the B&F last Saturday night from table Lake and Cooney who were sitting close by. I should preface this by stating that I'm questioning the cultural value rather than that of their football ability which is unquestionable.

Matthew Boyd, after being announced our three time Club Champion, was delivering his heartfelt acceptance speech whilst these two were totally engulfed in childlike behaviour playing iPhones.

This untimely, inappropriate behaviour did not go unnoticed from those around.

This from two of our supposed leaders who should be driving a culture that demands respect, ruthlessness and professionalism.

The observation was passed on the table that these two are just 'ferals'.

This sadly does not surprise me. As good as Brian was in his peak, he did his own thing in the back line. When we were a good side he could get away with it, when he was made to play tighter, he struggled.
A few years back he was up there with the best.

[G-Mo77]

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I think Lake now has a 2 year deal at Hawthorn with a club option of a third so no payments are coming from us. He's completely off the books and we have an extra 2nd round pick.

[Eastdog]

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This sadly does not surprise me. As good as Brian was in his peak, he did his own thing in the back line. When we were a good side he could get away with it, when he was made to play tighter, he struggled.
A few years back he was up there with the best.

Ever since he came back from his injury setbacks he was not the same. I hope Morris does not go down this route because he is another important player in our defence. Lake was known for getting a lot of junk possessions at the end of games.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

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I think Lake now has a 2 year deal at Hawthorn with a club option of a third so no payments are coming from us. He's completely off the books and we have an extra 2nd round pick.

How is it we have an extra 2nd round pick? Didnt' we effectively swap 2nd round picks with them, in addition to getting their pick 21.

[Topdog]

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Who cares if he was on the books or not. Unless we sign a free agent the money is pointless.

[LostDoggy]

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From a Carlton friend of mine who I have no reason to doubt. He saw Brian at Auskick in Caroline Springs the morning of the Carlton game and when he asked Brian how they'd go tonight, Brian replied, 'we're crap, gonna get flogged'.

Now whether tongue in cheek or whatever, not something you want to hear from anyone at the club.
I rated Brian since day 1 (still remember him running around in the 2's and thinking he was going to be good) but he is hardly the 'clubman' type and all the best chasing premierships elsewhere.

Let's not rate this trade on how well or poorly he goes at Hawthorn but as to how we go with drafting from the picks we got in the trade.

[LongWait]

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How is it we have an extra 2nd round pick? Didnt' we effectively swap 2nd round picks with them, in addition to getting their pick 21.

Yes, we swapped second round picks and we now have an extra first round pick (and $650k less in next year's cap.)

[Bornadog]

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Yes, we swapped second round picks and we now have an extra first round pick (and $650k less in next year's cap.)

Its not a real first round pick, its really a second round pick.

[G-Mo77]

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Yes, we swapped second round picks and we now have an extra first round pick (and $650k less in next year's cap.)

We've freed up cash but who do we spend it on now? It's not like it goes into a savings fund and matures for our 2014 campaign. We have to pay most of the cap and I'm guessing we'll be way under now.

[GVGjr]

Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

We've freed up cash but who do we spend it on now? It's not like it goes into a savings fund and matures for our 2014 campaign. We have to pay most of the cap and I'm guessing we'll be way under now.

We could renegotiate some contracts and front load them.

[G-Mo77]

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How is it we have an extra 2nd round pick? Didnt' we effectively swap 2nd round picks with them, in addition to getting their pick 21.

Whoops, my bad. We gained a first round pick. I'm choking on my own rage here.

[G-Mo77]

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We could renegotiate some contracts and front load them.

This is really the only realistic scenario that I can come up, that or we throw it all away on Dawes.

[The Pie Man]

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Would have liked more for Brian, but it's not the worst deal we've done (discussing that could be an entirely different thread - early nomination is Peter Street for...was it pick 20?)

I understand the emotions involved, but I can't say I'm shattered. He clearly wants to go, and we get at least something more than used drink bottles for him.

If only he'd held a mark he flew for up forward in the 3rd against St Kilda in the 09 prelim, a goal from it could've changed the game. Will be remembered as a great servant.

[LostDoggy]

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Whoops, my bad. We gained a first round pick. I'm choking on my own rage here.

If you want to feed the rage (as I do). We swapped two end of first round pretty much and gained an early 40's pick. Yes I realise it's "notionally" a first rounder but we've frankly upgraded a round 2 by 6 points. It ain't great and its got to be a Hawthorn win looked at dispassionately. Shizer of a day

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

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whoops, my bad. We gained a first round pick. I'm choking on my own rage here. :d

haha!!!!