Brian Lake to Hawthorn

[LostDoggy]

Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

I've simmered a little since last night, still, as soon as I get to work I will be using works time to write a lengthy email to the club to voice my disapproval. I'm pretty sure I'll get a canned response or nothing at all but it will be good to get it all off my chest.

I've simmered also for a couple of reasons. We've essentially got hunter for lake plus some beneficial shuffling of draft picks. We are also much better placed for a significant free agency raid next year. More room in cap and won't lose Lake next year for nothing if we do sign an equally high-profile free agent (lake compo would therefore be worth nothing). Was Lake on veteran's list. If so, does anyone know who replaces him? I don't think we could have done a huge amount better for 31 year old - but it does make for an interesting year next year.

[Mofra]

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argh, thanks. Who knows what to believe.

If Lake has signed a new contract for less money, I would think it would be only if he was paid out by the dogs, or partly paid.

Why on Earth would there be any obligation to pay out his contract if Lake has agree to a trade?
J-Mac mentioned we would not be making a salary contribution to Lake next year.

[azabob]

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How do you know this? According to an article we are paying out his contract for next year, so i don't know what the truth is.?

see here

I know other posters have already responded but from interviews I have heard by Mark Evans and Marty Pask, it is a brand new contract and his current contract is void.

BAD I guess the reality is we won't know the full story surrounding why he has left and the contract status.

[Mofra]

Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

Some clever chap on big footy noted that the Goddard's probable end of 1st round FA compo will push pick 27 back to 28. A tiny extra advantage to having pick 21.

... which pushes our compensation back to pick 22 if it's mid first round as seems to be a high possibility.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

What comes out of this to me is the realisation that Brian Lake is a strange man

Two years ago he held out for a contract figure which was way beyond that which the Club originally was prepared to pay and in so doing got the absolute maximum he could extract from us.

Now he turns his back on $200,000 per year so "he can play in a Grand Final." All of a sudden money is unimportant.

The more I look at this, the more I come to the conclusion that Lake simply wanted out, any way he could.

Don't let the door hit you on your way out, pal.

[Mofra]

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^ $200k for one year - he is probably earning more in the second year than he would have with us.

[LongWait]

Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

What comes out of this to me is the realisation that Brian Lake is a strange man

Two years ago he held out for a contract figure which was way beyond that which the Club originally was prepared to pay and in so doing got the absolute maximum he could extract from us.

Now he turns his back on $200,000 per year so "he can play in a Grand Final." All of a sudden money is unimportant.

The more I look at this, the more I come to the conclusion that Lake simply wanted out, any way he could.

Don't let the door hit you on your way out, pal.

This is my feeling as well.

[LostDoggy]

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^ $200k for one year - he is probably earning more in the second year than he would have with us.

There is no way that could be given their commitments to Buddy, Mitchell, Cyril etc He would be way down on what we would have paid him.

[LongWait]

Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

Retweet from Mark Robinson:

Lake "You go with him, I'll zone off", Gibson "No, you go with him, I'll zone off" Schoenmakers "Help!!!"

[Mantis]

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I've simmered also for a couple of reasons. We've essentially got hunter for lake plus some beneficial shuffling of draft picks. We are also much better placed for a significant free agency raid next year. More room in cap and won't lose Lake next year for nothing if we do sign an equally high-profile free agent (lake compo would therefore be worth nothing). Was Lake on veteran's list. If so, does anyone know who replaces him? I don't think we could have done a huge amount better for 31 year old - but it does make for an interesting year next year.

We sure are financially?

But which other 'poorer' club in terms of financial wealth and performance hit pay dirt during the free agency period.. I know money is a powerful factor, but another poor season will make it tough to attract quality players as those that are eligible all want to move to successful teams, not rebuilding ones.

[LongWait]

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We sure are financially?

But which other 'poorer' club in terms of financial wealth and performance hit pay dirt during the free agency period.. I know money is a powerful factor, but another poor season will make it tough to attract quality players as those that are eligible all want to move to successful teams, not rebuilding ones.

From what Smorgon has said earlier this year, I assume the free agents and players wanting a move that we will be after are the kids from Gold Coast and GWS. I doubt we will be trying to land a late 20's free agent like Goddard.

[Bulldog4life]

Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

Whilst I'm struggling somewhat to rationalise why we needed to give up our pick 27 to make this deal happen can I at least share with you a snapshot of what our table, which did include some past greats of our Club, observed at the B&F last Saturday night from table Lake and Cooney who were sitting close by. I should preface this by stating that I'm questioning the cultural value rather than that of their football ability which is unquestionable.

Matthew Boyd, after being announced our three time Club Champion, was delivering his heartfelt acceptance speech whilst these two were totally engulfed in childlike behaviour playing iPhones.

This untimely, inappropriate behaviour did not go unnoticed from those around.

This from two of our supposed leaders who should be driving a culture that demands respect, ruthlessness and professionalism.

The observation was passed on the table that these two are just 'ferals'.

A small example maybe but gee it stood out as very disrespectful to someone who busts a gut like few others.

Thanks for sharing that Doc. An unfortunate insight to both Lake's and Cooney's attitude and character.

[LostDoggy]

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From what Smorgon has said earlier this year, I assume the free agents and players wanting a move that we will be after are the kids from Gold Coast and GWS. I doubt we will be trying to land a late 20's free agent like Goddard.

I thought all free agents had to be in their mid to late 20s by the nature of the rules (ie 7yrs service). I am thinking we will be going for uncontracted younger players from GWS and GC and using our salary cap and good PSD position to leverage homesick players to us for no draft pick cost. Will be interesting.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

Geez I'll miss Brian. Regardless of his age, his broken body, his value next year in the free agency I will miss his class, poise under pressure, kicking action, politeness with fans (including that smirk he does a lot).

Good Luck Brian, you will be sorely missed at our club.

[LongWait]

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I thought all free agents had to be in their mid to late 20s by the nature of the rules (ie 7yrs service). I am thinking we will be going for uncontracted younger players from GWS and GC and using our salary cap and good PSD position to leverage homesick players to us for no draft pick cost. Will be interesting.

Players who are delisted are free agents regardless of length of service, however I think we will target players who want a move from Gold Coast and GWS regardless of their contract status.