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  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

    Originally posted by LongWait
    If you want to know why Lake is gone listen again to McCartney's speech at the Sutton Medal night and put that alongside what we suspect about Lake being unhappy to play anywhere but full-back and Pask initiating the trade. Boom - there it is. Both player and club had had enough.
    Thats totally fine and assuming they both wanted out then totally cool. Why not get "we're going to help you win a flag" value though and sorry 41 isn't it. I don't want to be hawthorns lady friend and I feel like they took us a quickie and stole $20 from our wallet for a cab ride home. Trade the bloke but maybe we could fight for our position rather than offering up the neck? We've been ridden long and hard on this one make no mistake. Maybe the Hawks will feel like they owe us one in 6 years when our positions are reversed? Or maybe a side of bacon just flew past my window.....

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    • Remi Moses
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 14785

      Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

      Originally posted by LongWait
      If you want to know why Lake is gone listen again to McCartney's speech at the Sutton Medal night and put that alongside what we suspect about Lake being unhappy to play anywhere but full-back and Pask initiating the trade. Boom - there it is. Both player and club had had enough.
      Agree, tail shouldn't be wagging the dog.
      A certain Brad Hardie tried that on and rightly was dispatched to the Bears.
      Good luck to him

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      • Doc26
        Coaching Staff
        • Sep 2009
        • 3087

        Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

        What is somewhat urking me right now is the proliferation of smug Hawthorn supporters coming up to me at work with smug looking grins on their faces who believe they've been given Lake on a plate for virtually nothing and who wish to gloat about it at our supposed expense.

        To a man they all seem to believe pick 21 and 41 would've cut the deal when it came down to it.

        I can live with the decision to move Brian on, in fact support it for the right price, but I am still struggling big time with giving away our pick 27 for their pick 21 to make this happen. It is this piece alone that is sitting uneasy with me.

        Just when you thought this damn awful season was over I still find myself contending with these smug Hawthorn types. The last one who came by not 10 minutes ago was eager to let me know how he hasn't been able to raise a smile since the Grand Final loss but how this 'bargain' has quickly changed all of that around for him.

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

          Originally posted by Doc26
          What is somewhat urking me right now is the proliferation of smug Hawthorn supporters coming up to me at work with huge grins on their faces who believe they've been given Lake on a plate for virtually nothing.

          To a man they all believe pick 21 and 41 would've cut the deal when it came down to it.

          I can live with the decision to move Brian on, in fact support it for the right price, but I am still struggling big time with giving away our pick 27 for their pick 21 to make this happen. It is this piece alone that is sitting uneasy with me.

          Just when you thought this damn awful season was over I still find myself contending with these smug Hawthorn types. The last one who came by not 10 minutes ago was eager to let me know how he hasn't been able to raise a smile since the Grand Final loss but how this 'bargain' has quickly changed all of that around for him.
          And you're not on you're own there. It's not only Hawthorn supporters but all other club's supporters who are certain that we gave him away.

          I'm heartily sick of it because it's hard to argue against.

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          • The Bulldogs Bite
            Hall of Fame
            • Dec 2006
            • 11246

            Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

            Originally posted by Doc26
            What is somewhat urking me right now is the proliferation of smug Hawthorn supporters coming up to me at work with smug looking grins on their faces who believe they've been given Lake on a plate for virtually nothing and who wish to gloat about it at our supposed expense.

            To a man they all seem to believe pick 21 and 41 would've cut the deal when it came down to it.

            I can live with the decision to move Brian on, in fact support it for the right price, but I am still struggling big time with giving away our pick 27 for their pick 21 to make this happen. It is this piece alone that is sitting uneasy with me.

            Just when you thought this damn awful season was over I still find myself contending with these smug Hawthorn types. The last one who came by not 10 minutes ago was eager to let me know how he hasn't been able to raise a smile since the Grand Final loss but how this 'bargain' has quickly changed all of that around for him.
            I couldn't have said it better.

            That's my beef -- not the trading away of Lake, but what we gave him away for.
            W00F!

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            • Bulldog Revolution
              Coaching Staff
              • Dec 2006
              • 3926

              Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

              Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
              I couldn't have said it better.

              That's my beef -- not the trading away of Lake, but what we gave him away for.
              Yep, far easier to digest if our 27 hadn't been involved

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              • AndrewP6
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2009
                • 8142

                Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

                Originally posted by bornadog
                I read somewhere that the Hawks have enquired about Lake for the past three seasons.
                Clarkson said as much at the "unveiling"
                [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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                • Hotdog60
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 5908

                  Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

                  Originally posted by AndrewP6
                  Clarkson said as much at the "unveiling"
                  It sounds almost like poaching
                  Don't piss off old people
                  The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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                  • The Cowshed

                    Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

                    Seems to me the club are also embarassed about the trade because they are continually hiding behind the 'but we're in a great position with 5 picks inside the top 50' line.

                    We should have called Hawthorn and Lake's bluff because we held all the cards and demanded picks 21 & 41. To gift them 27 was just insane.

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                    • boydogs
                      WOOF Member
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 5844

                      Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

                      Originally posted by Doc26
                      To a man they all seem to believe pick 21 and 41 would've cut the deal when it came down to it.
                      Name one 31 year old in AFL history who has fetched that price.

                      That's without free agency, without a degenerative hip complaint, without having contributed nothing the year before, without having a huge salary to offload and without the club being in a rebuilding phase.
                      If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

                      Formerly gogriff

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                      • Sedat
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 11256

                        Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

                        Originally posted by gogriff
                        Name one 31 year old in AFL history who has fetched that price.

                        That's without free agency, without a degenerative hip complaint, without having contributed nothing the year before, without having a huge salary to offload and without the club being in a rebuilding phase.
                        Spida Everitt was older when Sydney picked him up and that was for a straight 2nd round pick (late 20's from memory). He was far closer to the end physically than Lake is.
                        "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                        • Bulldog4life
                          WOOF Member
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 9607

                          Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

                          Originally posted by Sedat
                          Spida Everitt was older when Sydney picked him up and that was for a straight 2nd round pick (late 20's from memory). He was far closer to the end physically than Lake is.
                          What did Barry Hall cost us?

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                          • Sedat
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 11256

                            Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

                            Originally posted by Bulldog4life
                            What did Barry Hall cost us?
                            Pick 47 straight swap. And it was initially supposed to be pick 47 with a Swans downgraded pick in the low 50's thrown our way as well. Hall was out of contract too.
                            "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                            • AndrewP6
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 8142

                              Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

                              Originally posted by Bulldog4life
                              What did Barry Hall cost us?
                              Pick 47
                              [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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                              • jeemak
                                Bulldog Legend
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 21834

                                Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

                                Originally posted by Sedat
                                Spida Everitt was older when Sydney picked him up and that was for a straight 2nd round pick (late 20's from memory). He was far closer to the end physically than Lake is.
                                Second last pick of the second round, pick 33.
                                TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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