Chris Dawes?

[Bulldog4life]

Re: Chris Dawes?

Source of the story appears to be 15 year old trolls on the Facebook page.

Thanks LW. Thought as much. It keeps popping up. Tutty had an injury plagued season. Looking forward to see how he goes in 2013.

[Mofra]

Re: Chris Dawes?

If it's a high number of picks within the top 50 that we are looking for, is there a huge difference between having #5 & #6, trading away #6, keeping #5, but getting #12 & #13 as maybe a player as well?

I wonder if the club are looking at that deal to securing Dawes at #21 but then still having 3 first rounders? Just hope they dont pay overs for Dawes.

Hard to say, I assume at this stage of proceedings we have a strong idea of who we want at 5 & 6 and who may be available at 12 & 13.

If it was #6 for #12 & #13 and Jed Anderson, in my uniformed opinion, we'd jump at it.

Source of the story appears to be 15 year old trolls on the Facebook page.

Nope.

[Topdog]

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Dawes won't get to 100 with us. He'll plug a gap for 4 seasons and then be out of AFL.

Fantastic posts Guido

[stefoid]

Re: Chris Dawes?

At the end of the day he is a forward who has trouble marking the ball, which is like an outside mid who cant kick. - if your form is good you can achieve 'average' and if it isnt you are deplorable.

[Grantysghost]

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If Kurt Tippet nominated Bulldogs has his destination of choice, would the Dawes Knockers be throwing pick 21 at the crows & cartwheeling around whitten oval?
If so, Dawes & Tippet's career average stats read very much the same, except Dawes has a premiership medal & is a year younger, nowhere near reached his peek.

SHUSH.....don't tell Sydney!

Dawes is currently better than anything we have up forward.
I have faith in the people payed lots of money to make these decisions, & I hope they get the deal done!

Tippett is one of those players that could potentially be anything. Has a huge upside. I was at the prelim and those kind of guys in finals are gold. He and Walker nearly took the game away from the Hawks. On Dawes current seasons form you couldn't rate his ability as equal to Tippett's. Be interesting to see what happens if Kurt gets k'od in his first hit out with the Swannies. Bit of a worry there. If we get Dawes, i just hope we don't give away too much. (PLEASE!).

[Remi Moses]

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I'm a little bemused by the Tutt negativity.
He hasn't been able to get on the park for anyone to give an accurate Assesment !

[Topdog]

Re: Chris Dawes?

If Kurt Tippet nominated Bulldogs has his destination of choice, would the Dawes Knockers be throwing pick 21 at the crows & cartwheeling around whitten oval?
If so, Dawes & Tippet's career average stats read very much the same, except Dawes has a premiership medal & is a year younger, nowhere near reached his peek.

SHUSH.....don't tell Sydney!

Tippett gets more kicks, hitouts and most importantly goals. Tippett has shown the ability to kick bags kicking 5 or more 6 times in his career. Dawes has 0. Tippett has kicked 4 goals in a game 14 times, Dawes 2. Tippet hits the scoreboard 3.1 times a game, Dawes 1.9.

Dawes has 13 goals in 12 finals. Tippett has 13 in 6.

Yep very similar output.

Dawes does get 2 more handballs a game and 1 more mark. But I'll take 4 or more goals 20 times compared to 2 anyday to the week and twice on Friday, Saturdays and Sundays

[Bornadog]

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I'm a little bemused by the Tutt negativity.
He hasn't been able to get on the park for anyone to give an accurate Assesment !

There is no negativity towards Tutt, however, the coaching stuff have some issues (from what we hear)

[Bornadog]

Re: Chris Dawes?

Dawes has been paid a visit from Neeld and Leigh Brown (now Melbourne ass) to try and convince him to go to Melbourne.

I won't be unhappy if he doesn't choose the dogs, but will welcome him if he does. Personally, I don't think he will be playing for us.

[Topdog]

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Would rather have a crack at Gumbleton

[azabob]

Re: Chris Dawes?

Would rather have a crack at Gumbleton

Seriously, stop mucking around and giving the club possible ideas.

[Sedat]

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That they're paid big money to manage the footy department means nothing.

I did an analysis on Bigfooty last year on our history in using picks for recycled players - Trading and the Doggies - with hindsight, how many pick ups would be regarded as good value given the draft picks used to acquire them? How many of them were "a little bit overs" (and accepted as a necessary evil by both supporters and those in charge) even at the time of pulling the trigger? 80%? 90%?

There are probably another dozen other recycled players that I missed in that thread purely due to the fact that I couldn't even remember them because they barely played a game.

Everyone one of those decisions was made by people being paid hundreds of thousands to manage the footy department, doesn't mean their decision making was any good. Same goes for the current crop.

Can't argue with any of that Guido. Dalrymple stuffed his first draft with us but he has shown a good eye for talent since then - would be good to back him in and give him a strong hand to deal with on draft day this year. How good would it be to unearth another 1999 crop, or a Geelong 1999/2001 crop?

It's as if we got Lachie Hunter for slight unders so feel duty-bound to give overs for the rest of our trades. Clayton was shrewd during trade week (still is) and never paid overs for any recycled player. Sure they didn't all work out but when you bring in a Tim Callan for a 2-spot downgrade from pick 61 to 63 it's not exactly betting the farm.

[DOG GOD]

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We did give 20's for street and koops didn't we? I might be wrong, under clayton.

[Sedat]

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We did give 20's for street and koops didn't we? I might be wrong, under clayton.

Clayton was only recruiter from 1999 to 2003 - in 2003 Stephen Newport was our trade week negotiator and head of football. When he was given the lemonade and sars, Clayton stepped in and became list manager and player contract negotiator before Fantasia's arrival at the kennel.

[Murphy'sLore]

Re: Chris Dawes?

Given that an announcement on Dawes was supposedly imminent this time yesterday, and we've still heard nothing, is it fair to assume that the wheels have fallen off the deal?