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  • boydogs
    WOOF Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 5842

    Re: Draft Day Talk

    Originally posted by jeemak
    If they don't, then that's probably a sign we're not confident in our ability to manage him and we need to look as the reasons why that's the case, particularly if another club is able to do so giving them an advantage.
    We're not a rehab clinic mate.
    If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

    Formerly gogriff

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    • jeemak
      Bulldog Legend
      • Oct 2010
      • 21579

      Re: Draft Day Talk

      Originally posted by gogriff
      We're not a rehab clinic mate.
      Like it or not, we have a player on our list that has been caught by Victoria police in possession of an ilicit substance passing in and out of coherence on the streets of Melbourne. That player has since been suspended by the club, and has a lot of work to do to pay the club back for the embarrassment he has caused it, as well as having to prove to himself that he is a mature and responsible person (not to mention his family and friends).

      On the basis of our football club not being a rehabilitation clinic, are you prepared to give up on him? Or does the talent he's shown to this point in our club colours discount him from being expendable, and worht persevering with?
      TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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      • boydogs
        WOOF Member
        • Apr 2009
        • 5842

        Re: Draft Day Talk

        Originally posted by jeemak
        Like it or not, we have a player on our list that has been caught by Victoria police in possession of an ilicit substance passing in and out of coherence on the streets of Melbourne. That player has since been suspended by the club, and has a lot of work to do to pay the club back for the embarrassment he has caused it, as well as having to prove to himself that he is a mature and responsible person (not to mention his family and friends).

        On the basis of our football club not being a rehabilitation clinic, are you prepared to give up on him? Or does the talent he's shown to this point in our club colours discount him from being expendable, and worht persevering with?
        Libba should be on 1 strike, and gone if he gets to 3.

        Garlett has photos up on Instagram of being high on drugs, drunk and standing on a dead kangaroo. He has been kicked out of the AIS and sent home from his local club. He turns up to training drunk, drinks during the week and smokes.

        I think that puts him on about 6 strikes before he plays a game.
        If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

        Formerly gogriff

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        • jeemak
          Bulldog Legend
          • Oct 2010
          • 21579

          Re: Draft Day Talk

          Originally posted by gogriff
          Libba should be on 1 strike, and gone if he gets to 3.

          Garlett has photos up on Instagram of being high on drugs, drunk and standing on a dead kangaroo. He has been kicked out of the AIS and sent home from his local club. He turns up to training drunk, drinks during the week and smokes.

          I think that puts him on about 6 strikes before he plays a game.
          Pretty sure you only get one strike when you're caught with it in your system, not when you potentially might have taken substances.

          If it was the latter, then the AFL would be full of players on a few strikes. Surely you understand that many players indulge in ilicit drug taking, without being caught with it in their systems.

          If what you're saying about Garlett is true, then all I'll consider him beyond the norm from many other players is being stupid enough for letting photographical evidence of it being plastered across the internet. To think that he, or Libba are mildly isolated cases of AFL or potential AFL players taking drugs then you've well and truly got your head in the sand.

          As for rocking up to training drunk, then that's clearly unacceptable, if that's what he's done. Irrespective of all of that, if we pass on him and another team is able to develop him into a mature person after perserverence then we need to question our ability to do the same. That's what good clubs do.
          TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 66116

            Re: Draft Day Talk

            Originally posted by gogriff
            Libba should be on 1 strike, and gone if he gets to 3.

            Garlett has photos up on Instagram of being high on drugs, drunk and standing on a dead kangaroo. He has been kicked out of the AIS and sent home from his local club. He turns up to training drunk, drinks during the week and smokes.

            I think that puts him on about 6 strikes before he plays a game.
            Is there evidence of this?
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            • Maddog37
              WOOF Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 3132

              Re: Draft Day Talk

              This thread has gone completely off the rails.

              Way too much opinion based on assumption and all over an immature eighteen year old boy who is getting attention just because he is good at a game.

              Time to move on surely........

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              • The Underdog
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Aug 2007
                • 6801

                Re: Draft Day Talk

                Originally posted by Maddog37
                This thread has gone completely off the rails.

                Way too much opinion based on assumption and all over an immature eighteen year old boy who is getting attention just because he is good at a game.

                Time to move on surely........
                They all get attention because they are good at the game.
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                • Maddog37
                  WOOF Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 3132

                  Re: Draft Day Talk

                  But they don't all get character assassinated based on internet stories and second hand information.

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                  • boydogs
                    WOOF Member
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 5842

                    Re: Draft Day Talk

                    Originally posted by jeemak
                    Pretty sure you only get one strike when you're caught with it in your system, not when you potentially might have taken substances.
                    I meant within the club, not a formal AFL drug policy strike.

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    Is there evidence of this?
                    Phil Smart from Swan Districts has admitted they have sent him home from training for turning up late, but not drunk.

                    One of his Instagram photos of him drinking & smoking was uploaded a few days before a semi-final, but he now claims it was taken earlier on.
                    If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

                    Formerly gogriff

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                    • jeemak
                      Bulldog Legend
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 21579

                      Re: Draft Day Talk

                      Originally posted by gogriff
                      I meant within the club, not a formal AFL drug policy strike.


                      Phil Smart from Swan Districts has admitted they have sent him home from training for turning up late, but not drunk.

                      One of his Instagram photos of him drinking & smoking was uploaded a few days before a semi-final, but he now claims it was taken earlier on.
                      Oh, OK. There'd be a few out there that would suggest if Libba stepped out of line so significantly again we'd best show him the door.
                      TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                      • LostDoggy
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8307

                        Re: Draft Day Talk

                        I'd be filthy if we picked him up. You can't take a stand in front of members and the wider football world, as Macca has done, and say, “We only want good people at the club, and we want to move our club culture away from the individual and focus on the team” and then go draft a kid like Garlett.

                        I couldn't give a rat's how good he is, Akermanis was a deadset champion and look how that turned out in the end.

                        If our coaching staff want the respect and buy-in from the playing group and fans in regards to their vision and strategy, they need to stick to that vision themselves, and not be tempted by a kid with great talent but little else.

                        You also need to consider that as an AFL footballer, even as just a rookie, he will command a lot more attention and have a lot more hangers-on around him. I think he'd get worse, not better.

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                        • Happy Days
                          Hall of Fame
                          • May 2008
                          • 10087

                          Re: Draft Day Talk

                          Originally posted by gogriff
                          One of his Instagram photos of him drinking & smoking
                          Like this one?

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66116

                            Re: Draft Day Talk

                            Originally posted by Happy Days
                            Like this one?

                            Oh my god shock horror a 17 year old drinking and smoking
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                            • bulldogtragic
                              The List Manager
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 34316

                              Re: Draft Day Talk

                              Originally posted by bornadog
                              Oh my god shock horror a 17 year old drinking and smoking
                              If only a club with a great culture could mentor him and utilise his skills... Know of such a side?

                              But really, he's not coming to WO.
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                              • Daughter of the West
                                WOOF Member
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 918

                                Re: Draft Day Talk

                                Originally posted by Happy Days
                                Like this one?

                                What's with his right eye?
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