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  • G-Mo77
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Apr 2007
    • 9876

    Re: Psd

    Originally posted by jeemak
    I don't disagree. There's also a lot to be gained if you get it right, both for the club and for the player.
    Anyway we can have this discussion next year. Hopefully Dayle can prove all clubs that he's worth a spot.

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    • jeemak
      Bulldog Legend
      • Oct 2010
      • 21830

      Re: Psd

      Originally posted by G-Mo77
      Anyway we can have this discussion next year. Hopefully Dayle can prove all clubs that he's worth a spot.
      For sure. Whilst I'm no bleeding heart I don't like the idea of a kids dreams being shattered at 18. Hopefully he takes his medicine and puts a very good year together on and off the field.
      TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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      • ledge
        Hall of Fame
        • Dec 2007
        • 14309

        Re: Psd

        Originally posted by jeemak
        For sure. Whilst I'm no bleeding heart I don't like the idea of a kids dreams being shattered at 18. Hopefully he takes his medicine and puts a very good year together on and off the field.
        Little Tom Liberatore comes to mind, hopefully he has matured a lot, we aren't hearing much though on his return and mind set.
        Bring back the biff

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        • Remi Moses
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 14785

          Re: Psd

          Seems like clubs have gone down the coaching mentoring rookie line.
          Huddo to the pies, Thornton and various others. Looks to me like they've got Brett down to play in the stand alone team. Personally would like to see us pick up Another player or two.

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          • jeemak
            Bulldog Legend
            • Oct 2010
            • 21830

            Re: Psd

            Originally posted by ledge
            Little Tom Liberatore comes to mind, hopefully he has matured a lot, we aren't hearing much though on his return and mind set.
            It's strange. If we had have shopped Tom around on the trade market we probably would have received good compensation for him!

            A player with all of the education under his belt, senior football experience and a couple of years exposure at the highest level still managed to make an absolute goose of himself and the club, by placing himself in a dangerous position.
            TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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            • Cyberdoggie
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 2859

              Re: Psd

              Originally posted by Remi Moses
              Seems like clubs have gone down the coaching mentoring rookie line.
              Huddo to the pies, Thornton and various others. Looks to me like they've got Brett down to play in the stand alone team. Personally would like to see us pick up Another player or two.
              Effectively we have pinched him from Williamstown with eye to our stand alone side.
              We are probably already paying him for his mentoring role, now he just has more input.

              I think getting good people around the club is imperitive. Pardon the pun but it's a Goodes story for the club.

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              • Eastdog
                WOOF Communtiy Organiser
                • Feb 2012
                • 18287

                Re: Psd

                Is anyone concerned that Goodes hasn't had AFL experience before or is it just a case that he has to start somewhere. Maybe it was good in the end we didn't go for Tippett who has a few injury concerns and Prismall.
                "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  Re: Psd

                  I like the move of getting Goodes on our rookie list. He has the ability to play senior footy in round 1 and he fulfills a specific role for us to help shore up our backline if needed. He is obviously very well regarded by the Club and coaching staff given that he already has an off field role with us. We have made the call not to draft Prismall or Bate, which i am more than comfortable with and we obviously decided that, for the overall balance of our list, that another youngster was not required.

                  I think that the club has done a great job this off season to really set our list up for the future.

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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    Re: Psd

                    Originally posted by bulldogsimmo
                    I think the club has made a real statement this year. We only bring in fiercely competitive players who are prepared to work bloody hard to get the job done. No prima donnas, no me first characters. I see Goodes as part of building a better culture at the club. Not unhappy at all, we have brought in 11 players some of them need to be seasoned foot soldiers willing to set an example for the younger kids.
                    Head. Nailed.

                    Originally posted by Cyberdoggie
                    Effectively we have pinched him from Williamstown with eye to our stand alone side.
                    We are probably already paying him for his mentoring role, now he just has more input.

                    I think getting good people around the club is imperitive. Pardon the pun but it's a Goodes story for the club.
                    Will he continue to fulfill the development role? And if so, will we have to include that wage under the salary cap? It's an interesting situation, drafting a staff member... Does anybody here with better info than me care to enlighten?

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                    • ledge
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 14309

                      Re: Psd

                      Originally posted by BornAScragger
                      Head. Nailed.



                      Will he continue to fulfill the development role? And if so, will we have to include that wage under the salary cap? It's an interesting situation, drafting a staff member... Does anybody here with better info than me care to enlighten?
                      J pod was a staff member at Geelong before being picked up
                      Bring back the biff

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                      • Cyberdoggie
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 2859

                        Re: Psd

                        Looks like someone who will definately benefit from an afl pre-season.

                        Has already noticeably bulked up and lost weight, might surprise a few next year.

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                        • Axe Man
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 11167

                          Re: Psd

                          Plenty of discussion about Garlett missing out but it must also be a bit of a surprise that Josh Toy has ended up without a home. Seems walking out on a contract extension with Gold Coast has backfired rather spectacularly. I wonder if it was the heart condition or whether he simply wasn't considered good enough that has seen us and other clubs pass on him? Would be a shame if a heart condition has ended the career of an apparently highly talented junior footballer that would likely have been a high draft choice in 2010 if not taken by the Gold Coast beforehand.

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                          • ledge
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 14309

                            Re: Psd

                            Originally posted by Cyberdoggie
                            Looks like someone who will definately benefit from an afl pre-season.

                            Has already noticeably bulked up and lost weight, might surprise a few next year.
                            Yeah I always thought he was a bit chubby, definitely talented my question is why wasn't he ever picked up at a younger age?
                            Bring back the biff

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                            • Ozza
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 6401

                              Re: Psd

                              The VFL players can tend to be a bit 'untapped' - having been only really part time footballers.
                              AFL clubs are able to identify how to best utilise their strengths, and the professionalism and additional fitness can make that difference to them in making the jump.

                              Many on this site questioned our pick up of Picken initially and whether he would make the grade. And I know its not apples and apples - as Picko was much younger and more 'untapped'. But speaking to Rocket after Picko had had one season at the dogs and had shown massive improvement - he said that they had done a lot of testing of Liam when he was a Willy player and - for instance - knew he had really good pace - but that it wasn't being utilised at VFL level. Further to that - once they had had him in the club doing pre-season for a while, they realised he had 'quite a few more tricks' than they'd realised.

                              As I said, its not apples and apples - but gives you an idea of MAYBE, why the thinking about Goodes is where it is now that he is fitter and stronger than before.

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                              • mighty_west
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 3439

                                Re: Psd

                                Originally posted by ledge
                                J pod was a staff member at Geelong before being picked up
                                In his prime a few years before being selected by Geelong he continually picked the eyes out of and made AFL listed players around and against him look stupid.

                                I don't mind the Goodes selection, again, outplays alot of AFL listed players and shows others around him it doesn't matter what age, you can still get selected if you work your butt off.

                                I'll trust the recruiting guys over anyone with who we select, and just because he's 28, doesn't mean he can't have an impact and give us good service for a few seasons, it's a rookie selection, most are hit & miss anyway.

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