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  • Bulldog4life
    WOOF Member
    • Oct 2007
    • 9607

    Re: Psd



    The Western Bulldogs rookie-listed player welfare manager Brett Goodes, who will turn 29 before the start of next season.

    Goodes, the brother of Sydney superstar Adam, won two VFL flags at North Ballarat and has been tearing up the Whitten Oval track.

    He beat injury-riddled Bomber Brent Prismall to the final place on Brendan McCartney’s list after travelling with the club to their London pre-season camp, where his character and leadership shone.

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    • The Cowshed

      Re: Psd

      Originally posted by EJ Smith
      So we give a 28 year old a rookie spot in favour of any number of 18 year olds or in fact any number of candidates younger than 28?

      And if he makes it as an AFL standard player we will take him on at 29. Sorry but I consider this utter stupidity.

      We have taken late Rookie picks in the past and they have turned into diamonds. Why can we not do this again?

      Doesn't say much for our much vaunted coaching structure.
      Have to go with EJ here. Can't believe he has been picked up over a promising junior. Good luck to him though. Will have to turn that extra 2 stone of fat into muscle. Thought he was washed up at Williamstown watching some of those games this year. Treies his heart out and obviously hard at it but where's the pace? We've got too many of the same type. Why did they recruit Young and pick Goodes as well?

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66727

        Re: Psd

        Originally posted by The Cowshed
        Have to go with EJ here. Can't believe he has been picked up over a promising junior. Good luck to him though. Will have to turn that extra 2 stone of fat into muscle. Thought he was washed up at Williamstown watching some of those games this year. Treies his heart out and obviously hard at it but where's the pace? We've got too many of the same type. Why did they recruit Young and pick Goodes as well?
        Baffling pick up, totally goes against what the coach promised us.
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        • dogman
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2008
          • 135

          Re: Psd

          Originally posted by The Cowshed
          Have to go with EJ here. Can't believe he has been picked up over a promising junior. Good luck to him though. Will have to turn that extra 2 stone of fat into muscle. Thought he was washed up at Williamstown watching some of those games this year. Treies his heart out and obviously hard at it but where's the pace? We've got too many of the same type. Why did they recruit Young and pick Goodes as well?
          So they can play Murphy forward.

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          • chef
            Hall of Fame
            • Nov 2008
            • 14622

            Re: Psd

            Originally posted by bornadog
            Baffling pick up, totally goes against what the coach promised us.
            Agree, bit of a wasted pick IMO.
            The curse is dead.

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            • AndrewP6
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jan 2009
              • 8142

              Re: Psd

              Not sure about this one at all. Has to be a "culture" or "leadership" decision, but goes against what they said they would do.
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              • The Pie Man
                Coaching Staff
                • May 2008
                • 3497

                Re: Psd

                Could the vigor of VFL level footy (i.e lack thereof compared to AFL) have left a fit near 29 YO with the body of a ..26 YO?

                Thinking Beard as a reference point
                Float Along - Fill Your Lungs

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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  Re: Psd

                  PRE-SEASON & ROOKIE DRAFT
                  "Today's selection is a strategic one building on our recent selections of five 18 year olds in the AFL national draft. Brett's inclusion will not only bring a physical boost to our developing team - he also brings an injection of raw competitiveness." - recruiting manager Simon Dalrymple.

                  I have no problems with this line of reasoning.

                  And from The Sun

                  .........after travelling with the club to their London pre-season camp, where his character and leadership shone.

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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34289

                    Re: Psd

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    Baffling pick up, totally goes against what the coach promised us.
                    Ditto. A 29yo who has a few years left. I suppose it's better than Bate or Prismall. Just.
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                    • Maddog37
                      WOOF Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 3132

                      Re: Psd

                      This pick is a somewhat romantic story which appeals to me as it has the underdog theme but it seems short sighted in some ways. Having said that if his presence adds to the development of the group overall then maybe the collective value will be more than the sum of its parts.

                      He may also play for 3-4 years which statistically would be a win from that pick.


                      Good luck to him as he seems like a good fella.(feels like I have said the good fella line for every new face this year.)

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                      • Raw Toast
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 982

                        Re: Psd

                        I'm very happy with this pick - running defenders with good disposal are looking close to our greatest weakness at the moment. The players ahead of Goodes have the chance to claim their spots (yes Howard and Wood, I'm looking at you), but we have precious little depth and based on last year's form and Murphy to the forward line, Goodes would fit straight into the team.

                        Players used to be at their peak around his age - that's changed, but his body should still be able to cope with wear and tear a bit more having endured less battering than AFL provides.

                        The other point in favour of this is that we've lost a generation of players with the later Clayton drafts and the kids still need some leaders on the track - we've got them in the midfield, here's one who can do that down back.

                        In fact, thinking about this, with Murphy going up forward and Lake gone fishing, our backline is going to be very, very young. Can't hurt it to be able to put in someone with experience who plays the game the right way.
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                        • SlimPickens
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 2929

                          Re: Psd

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          Baffling pick up, totally goes against what the coach promised us.
                          Bit speculative but what rookie pick isn't? He is a big body around some smaller young defenders, not baffled by it at all.

                          One selection out of 6 being over 18 isn't a big deal surely?
                          "Loves a scrap....oh yeah & he's a pretty handy footballer as well"

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                          • LongWait
                            WOOF Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 936

                            Re: Psd

                            Originally posted by Twodogs
                            I'm happy we took Goodes. It shows that if you work hard you'll be rewarded.


                            I wonder do why we took him as a rookie when we had a space on the main list available though. Something to do with Veteran's list maybe?
                            We have 5 rookies, one of whom can be elevated to the main list prior to round 1. I assume the club wants the 5 rookies to fight for the remaining spot on the senior list. Pre-season training will have a bit of spice.

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                            • Bulldog Revolution
                              Coaching Staff
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 3926

                              Re: Psd

                              We've had loads of guys on the list recently who aren't anywhere near as accomplished as Goodes - shame we didn't do it three years a go though.

                              Originally posted by LongWait
                              We have 5 rookies, one of whom can be elevated to the main list prior to round 1. I assume the club wants the 5 rookies to fight for the remaining spot on the senior list. Pre-season training will have a bit of spice.
                              I dont mind this element to it

                              Its time we saw how much some of these blokes wanted it

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                              • LostDoggy
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8307

                                Re: Psd

                                I'm happy with this pick.

                                Come on people Matthew Boyd's and Dale Morris's are very rare rookie specimens.

                                We have been very spolit with the Rookie draft over the years.

                                Sounds like the type of bloke you would want around the youngsters.

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