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  • KT31
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jul 2008
    • 5454

    Re: Psd

    All the best to Goodes, have nothing personal against him and hope he makes the best of his opportunities.
    Still I feel we wasted a chance to get two years development into a young kid and see what they have to offer.
    It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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    • ledge
      Hall of Fame
      • Dec 2007
      • 14348

      Re: Psd

      I think 2 rookies should be mature players because they only get on the list due to injury, thus you want them able to
      Come in and play senior AFL straight away , no good having all 18 yo as rookies because they aren't ready in an emergency.
      Bring back the biff

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66851

        Re: Psd

        Originally posted by Mofra
        You would want us to take Hudson back?
        Remember, he's an on field coach more than anything else - just like Goodes.

        The difference in us becoming an on-field powerhouse and also rans is not going to be the 44th player on our overall list in 2012 who is there more to guide the kids development anyway.
        Mof, did I say Hudson. Take a look at who they picked up on their rookie list. eg. Jack Frost would have been better than Goodes.

        Come on posters aren't we allowed to have our say any more and opinions on club decisions???
        FFC: Established 1883

        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 66851

          Re: Psd

          Originally posted by ledge
          I think 2 rookies should be mature players because they only get on the list due to injury, thus you want them able to
          Come in and play senior AFL straight away , no good having all 18 yo as rookies because they aren't ready in an emergency.
          The rookie list is a joke. Should be now called the hasbeens list as I don't see many real rookies any more. (I am talking all clubs). Jong and Redpath are real Rookies.
          FFC: Established 1883

          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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          • Mofra
            Hall of Fame
            • Dec 2006
            • 14984

            Re: Psd

            Originally posted by bornadog
            Mof, did I say Hudson. Take a look at who they picked up on their rookie list. eg. Jack Frost would have been better than Goodes.
            You said rookies - Hudson was rookied by Coillingwood.

            The majority of clubs took senior players with their rookie picks - our rookie list reads as Goodes, Greenwood, Jong, Austin & Redpath. Hardly an old age home.


            Originally posted by bornadog
            Come on posters aren't we allowed to have our say any more and opinions on club decisions???
            Yes - do you mind if I have mine too?
            Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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            • Raw Toast
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 982

              Re: Psd

              I reckon two points need to be added to this conversation.

              1) We have the youngest list outside of the two expansion teams - Lower and Goodes add depth and hard mature bodies without compromising our investment in the future.

              2) As Emma Quayle noted, pretty much all the clubs acted as if the talent pool was pretty drained by the time we came to the psd and rookie drafts. Personally I'd have loved to pick Garlett, but very few 18 year olds were picked up as rookies this year (which makes some sense with two new teams in the comp now).
              [SIZE="1"][B][CENTER][I]Although it broke our hearts it did not break our will[/I][/CENTER][/B][/SIZE]

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              • mighty_west
                Coaching Staff
                • Feb 2008
                • 3439

                Re: Psd

                Originally posted by Mofra
                You said rookies - Hudson was rookied by Coillingwood.

                The majority of clubs took senior players with their rookie picks - our rookie list reads as Goodes, Greenwood, Jong, Austin & Redpath. Hardly an old age home.
                I think that's actually a very well balanced rookie list personally, we have 3 kids developing, and 2 ready mades in case of injury who can step right in and play a role without being under developed and thrown in the deep end.

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66851

                  Re: Psd

                  Originally posted by Mofra
                  You said rookies - Hudson was rookied by Coillingwood.

                  The majority of clubs took senior players with their rookie picks - our rookie list reads as Goodes, Greenwood, Jong, Austin & Redpath. Hardly an old age home.
                  Do you really think I would say lets pick up Hudson. I was talking about Kyle Martin (No.13, rookie), Sam Dwyer (No.27, rookie), Adam Oxley (No.35, rookie), Jack Frost (No.41, rookie),

                  I would have any of those over a 29 year old Goodes
                  Originally posted by Mofra
                  You said rookies - Hudson was rookied by Coillingwood.

                  Yes - do you mind if I have mine too?
                  Never said you couldn't.
                  FFC: Established 1883

                  Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                  • Twodogs
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 27658

                    Re: Psd

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    Come on posters aren't we allowed to have our say any more and opinions on club decisions???

                    Where has anyone stopped you having a say?
                    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                    • jeemak
                      Bulldog Legend
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 21844

                      Re: Psd

                      The interweb's a serious business these days.

                      I remember when it was all dancing babies and rotten.com...........
                      TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                      • G-Mo77
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 9877

                        Re: Psd

                        Originally posted by jeemak
                        The interweb's a serious business these days.

                        I remember when it was all dancing babies and rotten.com...........
                        Rotten.com is still around but yeah that's one of the first sites I looked at when I got connected to the Internets.

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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 66851

                          Re: Psd

                          Originally posted by jeemak
                          The interweb's a serious business these days.

                          I remember when it was all dancing babies and rotten.com...........
                          or maybe you can go to: http://www.fmylife.com/
                          FFC: Established 1883

                          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                          • Twodogs
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 27658

                            Re: Psd

                            Maybe we can get back to footy now?


                            Although it's just occured to me that we are talking about the Rookie Draft and the thread is called PSD.
                            They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                            • jeemak
                              Bulldog Legend
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 21844

                              Re: Psd

                              I posted in the "Dogs Count Numbers" thread that boulstering our midfield area and spreading experience across our list was part of a strategy to be more competitive throughout its list development phase. This was a view based on my suspicion the club has realised it's going to be a pretty hard sell to sponsors and the league (as it approaches having to begin negotiations on a new TV deal in the coming years) if it continues to be uncompetitive for an extended period. The club needs to get more bums on seats, and position itself as a competitive team with a bright future to benefit from more favourable fixturing in the coming years.

                              Irrespective of whether I think getting Goodes was the best decision, I think the club has gotten the balance of recruites almost completely bang on this off season. We're in a position to be more competitive on the field, without stifling the development of our younger players. There's also going to be significant selection pressure in all but a few positions throughout the season, which is great for a young team to have to deal with.

                              I'm feeling a lot more boyant about our short term on-field performance potential now than I was after round 24, that's for sure.
                              TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                              • Remi Moses
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 14785

                                Re: Psd

                                Originally posted by Raw Toast
                                I reckon two points need to be added to this conversation.

                                1) We have the youngest list outside of the two expansion teams - Lower and Goodes add depth and hard mature bodies without compromising our investment in the future.

                                2) As Emma Quayle noted, pretty much all the clubs acted as if the talent pool was pretty drained by the time we came to the psd and rookie drafts. Personally I'd have loved to pick Garlett, but very few 18 year olds were picked up as rookies this year (which makes some sense with two new teams in the comp now).
                                Beat me to it. The talent pool has been decimated with the two new clubs, and would think we'd better get used to this type of recruiting.

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