Hrovat Appreciation Society

[Mofra]

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Tore it up. Bloody happy with the kid

[Bornadog]

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[EasternWest]

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Not the most stunning debut, but at least he's involved.

I'ma bit perplexed by this.

As WOOF's resident perennial glass half full guy, for you of all people to describe his game like that is surprising .

He was terrific last night. It wasn't that he got a bit and kicked a goal, he was just so composed with it, never panicked once and laid off some particularly good pressure handballs. I was thrilled with his performance, thrilled. He's going to be a fine player.

[westdog54]

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Bloody good set shot for goal for anyone, let alone a first gamer.

[Dry Rot]

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I'ma bit perplexed by this.

As WOOF's resident perennial glass half full guy, for you of all people to describe his game like that is surprising .

He was terrific last night. It wasn't that he got a bit and kicked a goal, he was just so composed with it, never panicked once and laid off some particularly good pressure handballs. I was thrilled with his performance, thrilled. He's going to be a fine player.

Agreed.

Just watched the game on the so called BigPond Smart Replay. I reckon his debut was one of the best I've seen. How many times was he in the guts doing important hard stuff?

[Bornadog]

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[Cyberdoggie]

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Worth swapping Brian Lake for him now?

[F'scary]

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Thanks, BAD. That was sensational. A nippy, high DE player who will get the ball 25-40 times a match and has good set shot goal kicking technique as well. You could not ask for more.

[KT31]

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Thanks BAD, was a bit of criticism when we recruited him, but as Kingy said exactly what we need.
Great game on debut.
Seemed to have a bond with Stringer at the start at the video, which can only be good for us.
With the six recruits from last season playing well, it looks like we may finally have got a draft and trade period right.

[LostDoggy]

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He seemed to make the correct decision everytime he had the football.

He did make a couple of execution errors which resulted in turnovers, but the composure was still evident everytime.

It's refreshing having a bloke who just doesn't slam it on the boot as soon as he gets it.

Very good debut!

[LostDoggy]

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He seemed to make the correct decision everytime he had the football.

He did make a couple of execution errors which resulted in turnovers, but the composure was still evident everytime.

It's refreshing having a bloke who just doesn't slam it on the boot as soon as he gets it.

Very good debut!

Seemed a natural ala Mitchell /Murphy
Big call but we dream the dream

[Guido]

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Worth swapping Brian Lake for him now?

I don't think many people had an issue with swapping Lake for Hawthorn's first pick ... it was the draft pick we gave them in return (along with Lake) that people (IMO rightly) questioned.

We had the last piece of their premiership mix in our hands and he was contracted .. many felt we didn't negotiate hard enough.

Had we pushed, they would have relented and we would have walked away with Hrovat and pick 27 as well - which would have been outstanding list management.

I said it at the time and I'll say it now ... I only know 2 "insiders" at clubs, and one of them is affiliated with Hawthorn ... he's told me that they were budgeting on the having to give up the first pick outright and they were pretty much doing handstands when the deal was done so cheaply. When a coach comes out a few days later lauding the opposition's negotiators for being so fair and reasonable, IMO you know for a fact that you haven't pushed hard enough.

But what I truly worry about is that those running our footy department offered the pick that got Hrovat, PLUS a third rounder, for Chris Dawes. Madness, complete and utter madness. And that's without accounting for the $400K saving in our salary cap.

Anyway, things have worked well and I haven't said this on debut about anybody before (because it is so dangerous), but we, at worst, have a player who comfortably sit among the top 10 on this club's list for the next 10 years. And unlike Dawes, this guy will contribute to a number of premiership tilts.

[LostDoggy]

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Agreed.

Just watched the game on the so called BigPond Smart Replay. I reckon his debut was one of the best I've seen. How many times was he in the guts doing important hard stuff?

Never once looked lost or out of his depth.

[Cyberdoggie]

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I don't think many people had an issue with swapping Lake for Hawthorn's first pick ... it was the draft pick we gave them in return (along with Lake) that people (IMO rightly) questioned.

We had the last piece of their premiership mix in our hands and he was contracted .. many felt we didn't negotiate hard enough.

Had we pushed, they would have relented and we would have walked away with Hrovat and pick 27 as well - which would have been outstanding list management.

I said it at the time and I'll say it now ... I only know 2 "insiders" at clubs, and one of them is affiliated with Hawthorn ... he's told me that they were budgeting on the having to give up the first pick outright and they were pretty much doing handstands when the deal was done so cheaply. When a coach comes out a few days later lauding the opposition's negotiators for being so fair and reasonable, IMO you know for a fact that you haven't pushed hard enough.

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Hard for us to say without being involved personally but perhaps the deal was done so quickly to also avoid fan backlash. If word got out that we were trying to do a deal to trade Brian then as usual the mob would of had their say and the deal might not of been done.

Also the hawks paying his salary helps as well.

I think most of us agree we would of liked the two picks but I was still ok with the 1 because this was a quality draft.


All in all I think supporters will be very happy with Nathan, especially as the hawks will be lucky to get 2 seasons out of Brian.

[LongWait]

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I don't think many people had an issue with swapping Lake for Hawthorn's first pick ... it was the draft pick we gave them in return (along with Lake) that people (IMO rightly) questioned.

We had the last piece of their premiership mix in our hands and he was contracted .. many felt we didn't negotiate hard enough.

Had we pushed, they would have relented and we would have walked away with Hrovat and pick 27 as well - which would have been outstanding list management.

I said it at the time and I'll say it now ... I only know 2 "insiders" at clubs, and one of them is affiliated with Hawthorn ... he's told me that they were budgeting on the having to give up the first pick outright and they were pretty much doing handstands when the deal was done so cheaply. When a coach comes out a few days later lauding the opposition's negotiators for being so fair and reasonable, IMO you know for a fact that you haven't pushed hard enough.

But what I truly worry about is that those running our footy department offered the pick that got Hrovat, PLUS a third rounder, for Chris Dawes. Madness, complete and utter madness. And that's without accounting for the $400K saving in our salary cap.

Anyway, things have worked well and I haven't said this on debut about anybody before (because it is so dangerous), but we, at worst, have a player who comfortably sit among the top 10 on this club's list for the next 10 years. And unlike Dawes, this guy will contribute to a number of premiership tilts.

Well I know a Hawthorn insider extremely well and I call bullshit!