Lloydy on Footy Classifieds last night

[Bulldog Joe]

Re: Lloydy on Footy Classifieds last night

The fact that Brisbane applied very little defensive pressure allowed us to play the game on our terms, others teams haven't been so kind.

While we are far from a finished product it is very frustrating watching us turn the ball over with ease.. especially after committing bodies to winning the damn thing!

I hope to see improvement in this area over the remaining rounds, especially from players who have been in the system for a number of years.

Agree totally Mantis.

However, the Brisbane game did show that we knew what to do with the ball.

The process is to be able to execute under pressure and we are not there as yet. We have a team full of apprentices and they won't all make it, but we need to endure the process of development before we can enjoy the spectacle of success.

[Eastdog]

Re: Lloydy on Footy Classifieds last night

Agree totally Mantis.

However, the Brisbane game did show that we knew what to do with the ball.

The process is to be able to execute under pressure and we are not there as yet. We have a team full of apprentices and they won't all make it, but we need to endure the process of development before we can enjoy the spectacle of success.

How long do you reckon until with the current group (which is still very young) we have until it starts to click.

[GVGjr]

Re: Lloydy on Footy Classifieds last night

This includes changing the player list to get more guys who can spread – presumably that means run forward once we win the ball to create some sort of forward movement.

Does Lloyd realise you can't just change a list over night?*





*unless you drug them up like Essendon

[Bornadog]

Re: Lloydy on Footy Classifieds last night

The fact that Brisbane applied very little defensive pressure allowed us to play the game on our terms, others teams haven't been so kind.

While we are far from a finished product it is very frustrating watching us turn the ball over with ease.. especially after committing bodies to winning the damn thing!

I hope to see improvement in this area over the remaining rounds, especially from players who have been in the system for a number of years.

I watched some of the Essendon / GWS game on Foxtel and those young kids at GWS know how to kick. Once their bodies get stronger, Leon Cameron is going to have himself a team.

Our kicking is woeful, old players and new.

[Eastdog]

Re: Lloydy on Footy Classifieds last night

I watched some of the Essendon / GWS game on Foxtel and those young kids at GWS know how to kick. Once their bodies get stronger, Leon Cameron is going to have himself a team.

Our kicking is woeful, old players and new.

How do we address our kicking? Is it done in training or is it something that you just have.

[AndrewP6]

Re: Lloydy on Footy Classifieds last night

How do we address our kicking? Is it done in training or is it something that you just have.

needs to be done in training, and clearly isn't done enough.

[Eastdog]

Re: Lloydy on Footy Classifieds last night

needs to be done in training, and clearly isn't done enough.

Our skill level overall is just very poor. You would like to think the senior guys would lead by example to show the youngsters how's its done.

[chef]

Re: Lloydy on Footy Classifieds last night

How do we address our kicking? Is it done in training or is it something that you just have.

Draft guys who can kick, bit to late to teach them after they've been drafted most of the time.

[SlimPickens]

Re: Lloydy on Footy Classifieds last night

Our skill level overall is just very poor. You would like to think the senior guys would lead by example to show the youngsters how's its done.

Our most senior guy is one of the worst, if not the worst kick in the team!!

[Eastdog]

Re: Lloydy on Footy Classifieds last night

Draft guys who can kick, bit to late to teach them after they've been drafted that most of the time.

In other words it is not taught it is more inherent in players.

[Eastdog]

Re: Lloydy on Footy Classifieds last night

Our most senior guy is one of the worst, if not the worst kick in the team!!

Who has been our best you reckon in our senior group this year? Cross and Morris have been good.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Lloydy on Footy Classifieds last night

Having watched us structure up fairly closely the last few weeks, there's a few things I've noticed.

- Every single week we allow the opposition to have an extra defender. Our extra player goes hunting the ball (which I'm guessing is the directive from the coach)

- As a result we are winning the clearances and contested possession in majority of games. Also our insides 50's are always up there with the opposition despite losing by 10 goals.

- Majority of our inside 50's are as a result of winning the ball in the contest mainly due to extra numbers around the ball and our abundance of players who can win there own ball. Quick kick, seems to always be a quick kick not to our forwards advantage. Our delivery into forward 50 has been worse than last year if that's even possible. This just goes inside the 50, the spare player chops it off, or we create a contest but are outnumbered on the ground.

- Once the opposition wins the ball in our forward 50, the spread from the initial contest is absolutely killing us. Quick ball movement and our defenders are always 1 out with there opponents, due to our extra man being up in the initial contest.

I see what Macca is trying to do, work from the inside out. However our team simply is not quick enough/willing to work both ways hard enough/skilful enough and just plain not good enough for us to be competitive playing like this.



The amount of easy goals the opposition are getting is just ridiculous. We have the cattle in the middle of the ground to win our own fair share of ball. We don't need the extra man.

[mjp]

Re: Lloydy on Footy Classifieds last night

It says to me that balanced playing lists take a long time to develop, and that certain non-negotiables can be present before an over-arching and more sophisticated strategy emerges.

Bringing in quick and good users of the football as mature aged recruits is difficult, compared to bringing in midfielders like Lower and Stevens. They're rarely available at a reasonable price, so for the most part you have to do it through the draft.

Which is why when you already have Wallis and Liber you select Crozier over Smith. The Macrae selection was a step in the right direction...but he (and Tutt, and Cooney, and Griffen) all need to play in the same side.

Fwiw, I think we won the i50s vs west coast...not that it helped much.

[DOG GOD]

Re: Lloydy on Footy Classifieds last night

I agree with mjp. As good as Smith has been, I was shaking my head when we selected him, fully knowing we had "not quick" inside mids like wallis and libba. Crozier would've been an ideal selection. He has that run and silkiness we are looking for...a midfield of libba/wallis/crozier/McCrae would've been a step in the right direction. I'm not saying that having smith is a bad move..I like the way he plays, but when it was obvious we needed outside run and pace, we chose another inside mid without pace and an avge kick.

[anfo27]

Re: Lloydy on Footy Classifieds last night

The Eagle anyone?

Yeah I've been thinking the eagle in his prime would be a very handy player at the minute. A lot harder to replace than we all thought.