Lloydy on Footy Classifieds last night

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Lloydy on Footy Classifieds last night

on the Run, that's how Geelong do it. They prefer in some ways that you get first possession, so they can make use of the space to run it back. I don't know what the answer is.

[jeemak]

Re: Lloydy on Footy Classifieds last night

Which is why when you already have Wallis and Liber you select Crozier over Smith. The Macrae selection was a step in the right direction...but he (and Tutt, and Cooney, and Griffen) all need to play in the same side.

Fwiw, I think we won the i50s vs west coast...not that it helped much.

Don't doubt Crozier would have made a suitable selection, considering our needs.

Though I'll also say with Boyd and Cross leaving most likely within two years there's certainly going to be room for all of Smith, Wallis and Liberatore in our 22. Insurance against injury and form/lack of development isn't a bad thing either.

[comrade]

Re: Lloydy on Footy Classifieds last night

Did Lloyd also confirm that the pope is catholic?

[stefoid]

Re: Lloydy on Footy Classifieds last night

ha ha comrade.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/the-contest-is-up-20130506-2j3p2.html

Its easier to score from turnovers than clearances because you are more likely to catch your opponents out of position.

Therefore causing turnovers - and not generating turnovers - is more important than winning clearances.

We are OK at causing turnovers with our improving defensive pressure but out ball-use is appalling under pressure.

We desperately need good ball users, preferably quick ones. Fortunately our 2013 draftess are all supposed to be good users of the ball. Cant get Stringer, Macrae, Hrovat, Hunter and Pruden cemented in the best 22 quick enough.

[DOG GOD]

Re: Lloydy on Footy Classifieds last night

How quick are hunter, prudden and Hrovat?

[Remi Moses]

Re: Lloydy on Footy Classifieds last night

Don't doubt Crozier would have made a suitable selection, considering our needs.

Though I'll also say with Boyd and Cross leaving most likely within two years there's certainly going to be room for all of Smith, Wallis and Liberatore in our 22. Insurance against injury and form/lack of development isn't a bad thing either.

I agree with this. I thought we'd go Crozier as well, but to be honest you need as many players to do the heavy lifting. Sydney as an example tend to have many heavy lifters, and don't be fooled by gamestyles currently it will get back to tight contested hard football when it counts.

[stefoid]

Re: Lloydy on Footy Classifieds last night

Hmm, yeah, But Clay is such wrecking ball with attitude. Id be loathe to swap him for Crozier now, given the option. I think he will end up better than Wallis.

[jeemak]

Re: Lloydy on Footy Classifieds last night

Hmm, yeah, But Clay is such wrecking ball with attitude. Id be loathe to swap him for Crozier now, given the option. I think he will end up better than Wallis.

They're clearly different players, and it will be interesting to see who turns out to be a better acquisition for the club.

At this stage it looks as if Clay has a bit more versatility in that he's shown himself to be an effective forward. Being a very strong lad has certainly helped him show an ability to affect different types of contests to this point.

[Scorlibo]

Re: Lloydy on Footy Classifieds last night

Hmm, yeah, But Clay is such wrecking ball with attitude. Id be loathe to swap him for Crozier now, given the option. I think he will end up better than Wallis.

Wallis is so far ahead of Smith in decision making a ball use though. Wallis doesn't have the same limitations that Smith has.

[wimberga]

Re: Lloydy on Footy Classifieds last night

ha ha comrade.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/the-contest-is-up-20130506-2j3p2.html

Its easier to score from turnovers than clearances because you are more likely to catch your opponents out of position.

Therefore causing turnovers - and not generating turnovers - is more important than winning clearances.

We are OK at causing turnovers with our improving defensive pressure but out ball-use is appalling under pressure.

We desperately need good ball users, preferably quick ones. Fortunately our 2013 draftess are all supposed to be good users of the ball. Cant get Stringer, Macrae, Hrovat, Hunter and Pruden cemented in the best 22 quick enough.

Your right Stefoid in that our disposal under pressure is poor. However, I really dont think this is completely a skill issue.

I really feel like our mids and forwards still dont know how to create space. You can be a crap kick and crap under pressure but if you have a player who has found space your kick can be made to look awesome. I'm not sure we run hard enough without the ball, offensively or defensively, but hope that will change with fitness, maturity and further tactical instruction.

[jeemak]

Re: Lloydy on Footy Classifieds last night

Wallis is so far ahead of Smith in decision making a ball use though. Wallis doesn't have the same limitations that Smith has.

I'd take Smith inside the forward 50 over Wallis right now though, and Wallis in the midfield.

Each has limitations to work through.

[Bulldog Joe]

Re: Lloydy on Footy Classifieds last night

How long do you reckon until with the current group (which is still very young) we have until it starts to click.

I am expecting that we will be showing a more competitive effort on a consistent basis towards the end of the season and definitely from next year.

[stefoid]

Re: Lloydy on Footy Classifieds last night

Wallis is so far ahead of Smith in decision making a ball use though. Wallis doesn't have the same limitations that Smith has.

I dont see it - Smith seems more effective to me.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Re: Lloydy on Footy Classifieds last night

Did Lloyd also confirm that the pope is catholic?

The pope's a jew.

[Mantis]

Re: Lloydy on Footy Classifieds last night

On AFL Insider last night they discussed how the game has changed over the past few years and it's now become an 'outside' game. What really stood out was that the top 4 teams at present are all in the bottom 5 for contested possessions, but their kicking efficiency and goals from turnovers are all up near the top.

I know we have focused on winning the contested ball at present, and are becoming quite good at it, but if the current trend continues it may not be a critical stat in footy anymore.