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  • Go_Dogs
    Hall of Fame
    • Jan 2007
    • 10132

    #46
    Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

    Originally posted by firstdogonthemoon
    It is far too soon to talk about moving the coach on.
    There is no question these are dark times, but Bmac didn't inherit much of a list.
    I doubt there will be much joy for us this year at all.
    Even so I don't think it is helpful to just focus on W/L ratio while we are rebuilding.

    But a win would be nice.
    Totally agree FDOTM, good contribution.

    We as supporters must do what we do best, stay solid during this difficult time and back the players and staff to turn it around.

    It can often be the sign of the card having been stamped, but I hope we can really show the public/media this week the club is united, we believe in the systems we have put in place - as the President said at the start of the year it won't be easy, there's plenty of pain to come. I think we need to be reminded of this.
    Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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    • Mantis
      Hall of Fame
      • Apr 2007
      • 15389

      #47
      Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

      Originally posted by firstdogonthemoon
      It is far too soon to talk about moving the coach on.
      There is no question these are dark times, but Bmac didn't inherit much of a list.
      I doubt there will be much joy for us this year at all.
      Even so I don't think it is helpful to just focus on W/L ratio while we are rebuilding.

      But a win would be nice.
      If we were all focusing on just w/l we would having been baying foor blood some time ago.

      The lack of improvement in both our players, game style and tactical nous is what I find most concerning.... I know a 're-build' takes time, but to me it looks like we are going backwards rather than forward.

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      • G-Mo77
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Apr 2007
        • 9878

        #48
        Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

        Originally posted by Mantis
        The lack of improvement in both our players, game style and tactical nous is what I find most concerning.... I know a 're-build' takes time, but to me it looks like we are going backwards rather than forward.
        This is one of my biggest concerns. I'm a huge fan of Libba but he's been ordinary lately and I don't think the opposition is putting any extra work into him. Dahlhaus can't do anything wrong in most eyes, his season has been poor. Then there are quite a few in the VFL who have gone backwards as well although there is a case they weren't that good to begin with.

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 66478

          #49
          Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

          The title of this thread is ridiculous.

          Lets wait till the end of the year and assess where we are at.
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          • ratsmac
            Coaching Staff
            • May 2009
            • 3975

            #50
            Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

            Originally posted by bornadog
            The title of this thread is ridiculous.

            Lets wait till the end of the year and assess where we are at.
            Amen.
            They've done studies you know, 60% of the time, it works every time!
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            • ledge
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2007
              • 14269

              #51
              Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

              Originally posted by G-Mo77
              This is one of my biggest concerns. I'm a huge fan of Libba but he's been ordinary lately and I don't think the opposition is putting any extra work into him. Dahlhaus can't do anything wrong in most eyes, his season has been poor. Then there are quite a few in the VFL who have gone backwards as well although there is a case they weren't that good to begin with.
              Obviously you haven't been watching Libba close enough , I think he is rated second in the league in a lot of stats.
              Bring back the biff

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              • westdog54
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 6686

                #52
                Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

                Originally posted by Mantis
                Thats all reads well in McCartney's favour, but rightly or wrongly coaches get rated on one thing... The W/L column.

                Rohde - 45 games coached - 9 wins - 1 draw - 35 losses - 21.1%

                McCartney - 30 games coached - 6 wins - 24 losses - 20%

                You were saying?
                So if we beat Melbourne twice and GWS they'll be on par by seasons end, with Macca's list having significantly more upside and having inherited a train wreck.

                The way I see it Macca's got a way to go before being declared Rhode Mk 2

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                • G-Mo77
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 9878

                  #53
                  Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

                  Originally posted by ledge
                  Obviously you haven't been watching Libba close enough , I think he is rated second in the league in a lot of stats.
                  I do watch him very closely. His last few weeks have been ordinary. He was OK last night I guess but I expect a bit more than that.

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                  • BornInDroopSt'54
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 5231

                    #54
                    Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

                    The Cowshed and Bulldogtragic, we'd be better off if you two packed your bags than BMac. You're better suited to Richmond.
                    Footscray Football Republic.

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                    • Ghost Dog
                      WOOF Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 9404

                      #55
                      Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

                      Originally posted by firstdogonthemoon
                      It is far too soon to talk about moving the coach on.
                      There is no question these are dark times, but Bmac didn't inherit much of a list.
                      I doubt there will be much joy for us this year at all.
                      Even so I don't think it is helpful to just focus on W/L ratio while we are rebuilding.

                      But a win would be nice.
                      The players on our list are capable of a better game than that. We should be getting more miles per gallon with what we have. It's not a case of draft faults or anything/. We performed well below our best. Why?
                      These guys are not paid peanuts. When they stuff up basics it makes one wonder about the effectiveness of the coaching team. Either they are not teaching them correctly, or the message is not being delivered in the right way.
                      Basics. We just had to get them right last night and we would have won.
                      Last edited by Ghost Dog; 19-05-2013, 03:59 PM.
                      You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                      • bulldogtragic
                        The List Manager
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 34316

                        #56
                        Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

                        Originally posted by BornInDroopSt'54
                        The Cowshed and Bulldogtragic, we'd be better off if you two packed your bags than BMac. You're better suited to Richmond.
                        Sure. Better conform to groupthink than have different opinions..... Really pathetic crap your dribbling. I am free to think and post what I think. If you don't like it debate the issue not the poster. Petty name calling and petty insults don't do anyone justice.

                        If I don't like it, accept that others have freedom to disagree. I disagree with you, but I won't stoop to the bottom level of saying you should follow another club or that your a town crier etc. WOOF exists to have rational debate over our club, that includes disagreement from time to time. Live with it or go elsewhere.

                        Let's agree to disagree.
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                        • BornInDroopSt'54
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 5231

                          #57
                          Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

                          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                          Sure. Better conform to groupthink than have different opinions..... Really pathetic crap your dribbling. I am free to think and post what I think. If you don't like it debate the issue not the poster. Petty name calling and petty insults don't do anyone justice.

                          If I don't like it, accept that others have freedom to disagree. I disagree with you, but I won't stoop to the bottom level of saying you should follow another club or that your a town crier etc. WOOF exists to have rational debate over our club, that includes disagreement from time to time. Live with it or go elsewhere.

                          Let's agree to disagree.
                          Diversity of opinion is good. So is support rather than anxiety. Is it diversity of opinion that you are supporting or lack of faith? To believe that calling for the dismissal of the club appointed coach is representing admirable non conformity to WOOF opinions is not really the full story. This thread is just alarmist and there is satisfaction in being alarmist when you’re hurting from defeat.
                          I do not want you and Cowshed to barrack for anybody but the Bulldogs but suggesting a taste of your own medicine makes you realise the severity of the sentence you are passing on Bmac and the Dogs.
                          Footscray Football Republic.

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                          • Ghost Dog
                            WOOF Member
                            • May 2010
                            • 9404

                            #58
                            Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

                            Look, it's a stoopid thread title, ( complete fantasy stuff ) but do we really want to ask people to leave the boards just for posting something like this? That sort of stuff used to happen when I first joined this board. It's 200% better now, and full credit to the mods and other posters.


                            Dont sack the coach. But make him sit with me in some dingy pub in Norlane watching a replay, to that tune of that f^^##@ saccharine Gold C&$ts song

                            Fair dinkum, sounds like a wiggles song.
                            You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                            • Remi Moses
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 14785

                              #59
                              Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

                              After Rohde finished we went from 5 wins to 11.
                              I guarantee if another coach took over we wouldn't improve markedly.
                              The difference is the list he had was markedly better than McCartney has.
                              The whole left from that disasterous 06 07 period is killing us.
                              Lets all take a deep breath and just give the hysteria a break

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                              • AndrewP6
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 8142

                                #60
                                Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

                                Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                                Fair dinkum, sounds like a wiggles song.
                                Now now, some of the Wiggles stuff is good.
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