Pack your bags McCartney...

[MrMahatma]

Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

Never have understood why so many seem to think Mark Williams is a positive.

Yes he won a flag at Port, but Alan Joyce also won flags.

Williams had an exceptional side at the time, but they quickly turned to rabble while he was still in charge.

I for one would be hugely disappointed if we added Williams in any way.

So you only get considered a good coach if you win a flag with a rubbish team?

[Bulldog Joe]

Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

So you only get considered a good coach if you win a flag with a rubbish team?

No. A good coach sets up a good team AND the team/club remains better for their involvement.

Hence Joyce and Williams don't make my list as good coaches, because they each presided over a period that saw them turn a premiership team into a complete rabble.

Roos at Sydney is the other category, who departed with a team that remained competitive and won a premiership under his successor. Bomber Thompson also achieved that.

[Mantis]

Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

Mark Williams is desperate to be a head coach again. While he has a great ability to run people up the wrong way, his record os very very strong, especially when dealing with limited budget and a limited playing group.

Why then did he leave GWS when it was almost a given that he would take over from Sheedy?

[Mantis]

Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

In no order, the retention of Hahn as a rookie, the contract extension of Mulligan, the additional year to Akermanis without the media controls. I could add the floating of Everitt and Hill as trades one year only to maintain them and trade the following year. Eagleton was on the list at least one year too long but more likely 2.

Can't disagree with any of them, although I didn't mind Hahn staying on as a big bodied back-up for Hall.... But otherwise some big *!*!*!*!-ups in there.. But I would have thought that Eagleton was on the list for at least 5 years too long.

And Aker should have gone regardless of media controls, he was cooked by the end of 2009.

[Mofra]

Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

Why would you want Wallace back seriously when he has already walked out on the Club before. Have you forgotten that club leaders in Chris Grant and Luke Darcy made a deputation to David Smorgon at the time that they didn't want him coaching the team in the last game of the season. We have short memories.

Short memories?

The guy who was one dodgy goal umpire away from a flag as coach, who won 2 B&F for us and was a driving force behind changing the culture of the club, who has admitted his errors about how he left the club, supports the Bulldogs as do his kids and would actually provide value to the club if he was employed in official capacity?

Coaches almost never leave on good terms - if he wants to come back and the club can agree to terms, then go for it.

[chef]

Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

Short memories?

The guy who was one dodgy goal umpire away from a flag as coach, who won 2 B&F for us and was a driving force behind changing the culture of the club, who has admitted his errors about how he left the club, supports the Bulldogs as do his kids and would actually provide value to the club if he was employed in official capacity?

Coaches almost never leave on good terms - if he wants to come back and the club can agree to terms, then go for it.

Well said Mofra.

[Greystache]

Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

Short memories?

The guy who was one dodgy goal umpire away from a flag as coach, who won 2 B&F for us and was a driving force behind changing the culture of the club, who has admitted his errors about how he left the club, supports the Bulldogs as do his kids and would actually provide value to the club if he was employed in official capacity?

Coaches almost never leave on good terms - if he wants to come back and the club can agree to terms, then go for it.

Totally agree

[LostDoggy]

Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

Short memories?

The guy who was one dodgy goal umpire away from a flag as coach, who won 2 B&F for us and was a driving force behind changing the culture of the club, who has admitted his errors about how he left the club, supports the Bulldogs as do his kids and would actually provide value to the club if he was employed in official capacity?

Coaches almost never leave on good terms - if he wants to come back and the club can agree to terms, then go for it.

Yep, totally agree.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

Short memories?

The guy who was one dodgy goal umpire away from a flag as coach, who won 2 B&F for us and was a driving force behind changing the culture of the club, who has admitted his errors about how he left the club, supports the Bulldogs as do his kids and would actually provide value to the club if he was employed in official capacity?

Coaches almost never leave on good terms - if he wants to come back and the club can agree to terms, then go for it.

Agreed.

Terry's contribution shouldn't be ignored, and I think his time in the media recently has served him well. I wouldn't mind him back in the frame at all.

[LostDog]

Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

Anyway, in terms of the title of this thread, while I disagree with the specifics, the squeaky wheel does get oiled. Very intent on writing to the club, expressing my support but strong dismay with our performance.
If we as members don't do this, then by the time we get to a Melbournish stage, it will be far too late.
Are we too passive as members? Sometimes I think so.
The development as a total excuse ( partial is acceptable I guess ) went out the window the moment our senior group failed against the Suns.

here here

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

Why then did he leave GWS when it was almost a given that he would take over from Sheedy?

His wife hated being there. And threatened to divorce him A-la Darren Jolly. Or so I heard.

[Bornadog]

Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

His wife hated being there. And threatened to divorce him A-la Darren Jolly. Or so I heard.

Haven't they got something like 10 kids. Maybe she didn't want them being brought up there

[Remi Moses]

Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

Williams is cooked as a senior coach. I've mellowed on Wallace for a tactician role, time to forgive and forget. They won't go down that path now as it will look like they don't trust McCartney.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

I've calmed down since Saturday (just), and vented my spleen. Time to come back to reality. I can't change or influence any direction the club takes onfield. I have to back them 100% in what they do from here on. Not easy, but hey its the Doggies !!!!!

[Bornadog]

Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

I've calmed down since Saturday (just), and vented my spleen. Time to come back to reality. I can't change or influence any direction the club takes onfield. I have to back them 100% in what they do from here on. Not easy, but hey its the Doggies !!!!!

I just knew we were going to lose on Saturday so I wasn't has angry, but still very very disappointed that we can be beaten by a younger team that us.