Rate Simon Dalrymple

[Bornadog]

This thread is just for general discussion.

Looking at his selections, I think he has done very well, but as we have said, his very first one could have been better (understatement) and I am sure in hindsight we could all do better. I think Simon is doing a great job and I feel safe that he will pick up some beauties in the next few years. Always helps when you have early picks.



Of course Shane Thorne didn't work out and Schofield, well had great potential but couldn't hack the worak rate that was needed at this level. Skinner was also another speculative pick as was Tom Hill. Simon has also been helped by some father/sons, but you know what, we don't have to pick them if they are no good.

Simon has also done well with Rookie picks, in particular Dahl, and JJ as well as Roberts in the preseason draft may end up pretty good as well.

How do you rate his performance.

[Remi Moses]

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First one looks a stinker. Possibly Tutt maybe a player
The father sons were a no brainer, and two excellent rookie picks.
The last two look good for mine.Hard to judge resource wise into recruiting,and the heavily compromised drafts.

[Ghost Dog]

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One might shrug the shoulders with a pick 74, but Jayden Schofield was still a disappointment for mine.

I was right behind Skinner, but was always going to be a risky pick.

[Bornadog]

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Out of 18 players in four drafts, only four are no longer with the club. Of course the jury is still out on a few

[Remi Moses]

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One might shrug the shoulders with a pick 74, but Jayden Schofield was still a disappointment for mine. Was right behind Skinner, but was always going to be a risky pick.

Schofield was a disappointment because he went home.
Reckon he looked alright

[LostDoggy]

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People say coaching and recruiting are separate but if you look at the first two drafts under Eade compared to the next 2 drafts under McCartney, there is a noticeable difference.
Admittedly, comparison is difficult with just a one year sample considering 2010 with two F/S don't really count.

Last years recruiting was unbelievable. We picked up 9 players, all of whom have so far proven to be worth what we payed for them. At that rate, we only need another 1-2 more drafts and the rebuild is complete!

[Remi Moses]

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Gotta say I agree. Add another strong draft and you'd imagine a strong list for a period of time.

[GVGjr]

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I think you also need to add the Rookie listed players to the mix to evaluate Dalrymples performance.

[LostDoggy]

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As long as he doesn't take speculative players with anymore top 20 picks I think he'll do very well. No gambling early please. I still can't get over the Howard WTF moment. If you are going to act like you are smarter than anyone else in the room you had better get it right. Last year looks good. We still took a gamble on Stringer though and despite the exciting stuff we've seen it remains unanswered if it was the right call. Interesting to see after he gets a preseason in whether he can withstand the intensity of afl for a full season.

[Go_Dogs]

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I think you also need to add the Rookie listed players to the mix to evaluate Dalrymples performance.

Agreed he has done well through the rookie draft which has been excellent for the club.

I think he is trending in the right direction and has netted us some good players over the past few years. He'll ultimately be judged on how he goes the next few years too as he has a great opportunity to really set the club up for the next 10 years.

[Topdog]

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One might shrug the shoulders with a pick 74, but Jayden Schofield was still a disappointment for mine. Was right behind Skinner, but was always going to be a risky pick.

Skinner was the risk, Schofield was a good selection and looked a good player.

It's great that Simon has improved each year with his drafting

[Ghost Dog]

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Skinner was the risk, Schofield was a good selection and looked a good player.

It's great that Simon has improved each year with his drafting

Yep, I reckon he was too. What I meant was Schofield was a big disappointment, and probably really wanted to play for a WA club all along. Skinner was a long shot at best.

[LostDoggy]

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I think this kind of discussion is the perfect antidote to watching a loss on the weekend. Yes, we're struggling, but gee we've drafted really well, and whilst the present may be murky, the future is bright.

Looking at each individual list, I'd put 2009 down to Dalrymple being new to the role, we were in a different headspace then, pushing for a shot at the flag. It's still a stinker, but something I don't think would really haunt him that much. You'd have preferred he got it right but can forgive.

2010 is a bit different. We had the F/S, those boys pretty much picked themselves, and the rest of the draft was shot after that. That's two years running, and suddenly the hole in our list looks a little bigger, and will only get more so in the next two seasons.

So I'm pretty chuffed that Simon got it right with his 2011 draft, because let's face it, if he didn't we were up the proverbial creek sans paddles. Both Clay and Talia look the goods, Dickson the jury is still out on, don't know much/haven't seen much of Pearce.

2012. Wow. We'll be talking about it in ten years' time. And we haven't even seen Prudden yet. I still think Jake Stringer will end up being the best pick of the lot, long term, but at the moment it's all about The Rat, with Macrae a close second.

Like previous posters have said, if we nail the next draft or two we'll be alright. Hopefully we can sit here this time next year and comment about how 2013's draft was even better…

[Greystache]

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Our last 2 drafts look significant improvements on our previous 5 years with far fewer speculative picks and young players showing more immediately upon arriving at the club. Whether it's Dalrymple improving or a revamping of the football club's player selection methodology I guess we'll never know.

Our rookie draft selections continue to be among the best in the league.

I certainly have more confidence going into draft week than I'd had previously.

Skinner was the risk, Schofield was a good selection and looked a good player.

Schofield certainly had the talent to make it at AFL level, but like so many other selections in the period he was drafted we seemed to apply little focus to the type of person he was and how he would respond in an AFL environment like ours. Schofield, Everitt, Wells, Grant all have/had question marks over the mental application rather than their talent.

[Doc26]

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I find it difficult to assess Simon's individual performance without knowing the level of autonomy he was given to make the final call on each of the selections. Both 2011 and 2012 look promising but how much of the credit should be afforded to Simon over say McCartney, Shannon Grant etc I really don't know. From the stands I see the past two seasons selections at the least being a collaborative effort.

Based on the national draft, on face value, both 2009 and 2010 look ordinary to me with the exception of Tom Liberatore in 2010 who was never going to be passed up given his pedigree and what he had shown as a junior. Howard at pick 15 in the '09 draft was a surprise at the time and remains so. Further, that players such as Sam Reid (Swans), Christensen & Vardy (Cats), Stratton (Hawks) etc get picked up post the Tutt selection in '09 does highlight why these are top level Clubs. As for 2010, the remainder, Schofield, Skinner and Hill have proven to be wasted selections and Mitch Wallis, a high first round pick at 22, to me still seems a fair way off the mark although there would be few who would question this particular selection at the time.

With that said from the 2011 rookie draft on, i.e Dahl and JJ there appears currency in the selections.