Rate Simon Dalrymple

[chef]

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We can only speculate, but I think Libba would have been top ten with a bullet and Wally a first rounder. My impression at the time was that they knew Wally to perhaps be a little bit more mature and less likely to get ahead of himself, so they put him up for pick 22.

Had nothing to do with us to which order we drafted them, it depended on the other clubs bidding. Port bid pick 16 for Wallis and Sydney bid 40 for Libba. So we had to use 22 on Mitch and 41 on Tom.

[F'scary]

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Tell me, someone, I can't remember, who used what pick to compel us to use our pick 22 for Wallis? I'm not knocking Wallis - he is getting there.

Off the top of my head Port bid for Wallis and Sydney bid for Libba.

With 16 & 40, prior to our 22 & 41

thanks chef & gogriff. Interesting given how he has blossomed that Libba only attracted a bid one pick higher than our next one.

[Scorlibo]

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Had nothing to do with us to which order we drafted them, it depended on the other clubs bidding. Port bid pick 16 for Wallis and Sydney bid 40 for Libba. So we had to use 22 on Mitch and 41 on Tom.

thanks chef & gogriff. Interesting given how he has blossomed that Libba only attracted a bid one pick higher than our next one.

Incorrect. After Wallis was put up for auction first (and as far as I'm aware, we were able to decide the order in which they were put up) and Port bid for him, we had to use our first pick on him. Then Sydney put in a token bid for Liberatore, so that we would have to use our second rounder. There was no point in anyone else bidding on Libba, it was a forgone conclusion that we would take him, if he was auctioned first we would have been using our first rounder on him. Instead we put Wallis up first.

[azabob]

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Incorrect. After Wallis was put up for auction first (and as far as I'm aware, we were able to decide the order in which they were put up) and Port bid for him, we had to use our first pick on him. Then Sydney put in a token bid for Liberatore, so that we would have to use our second rounder. There was no point in anyone else bidding on Libba, it was a forgone conclusion that we would take him, if he was auctioned first we would have been using our first rounder on him. Instead we put Wallis up first.

I agree with Chef on the process.

Why would we put Wallis up for "auction" before another club bid on him?

[chef]

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Incorrect. After Wallis was put up for auction first (and as far as I'm aware, we were able to decide the order in which they were put up) and Port bid for him, we had to use our first pick on him. Then Sydney put in a token bid for Liberatore, so that we would have to use our second rounder. There was no point in anyone else bidding on Libba, it was a forgone conclusion that we would take him, if he was auctioned first we would have been using our first rounder on him. Instead we put Wallis up first.

I dont think that's correct.

When both players were put up they started at pick 1 and went through every pick and club in order until someone bid, Port for Wallis at 16 and Sydney for Libba at 40. There was no auction.


So the only way we would have had to take Libba first was if a club with one of the first 15 picks had bid for him.

[The Doctor]

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For what it's worth, I talked to a couple of our recruiters that year and they were leaning strongly towards Liberatore being the better player.

Libba was easily the better player

[Scorlibo]

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I agree with Chef on the process.

Why would we put Wallis up for "auction" before another club bid on him?

Each player is dealt with on an individual basis, one at a time.

I dont think that's correct.

When both players were put up they started at pick 1 and went through every pick and club in order until someone bid, Port for Wallis at 16 and Sydney for Libba at 40. There was no auction.


So the only way we would have had to take Libba first was if a club with one of the first 15 picks had bid for him.

Bidding process, auction - whatever you want to call it. Players are put up one at a time. Wallis was dealt with before Libba, and by that time only our second rounder was on the table. Do you honestly think that Libba would have gone at pick 40 in an open market?

[chef]

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Do you honestly think that Libba would have gone at pick 40 in an open market?

No I dont(but no knows for sure), but that's not the point of this disagreement which was you said we got to choose who we picked first. But we didn't get to choose as it was out of our hands.

[Scorlibo]

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No I dont(but no knows for sure), but that's not the point of this disagreement which was you said we got to choose who we picked first. But we didn't get to choose as it was out of our hands.

Okay well then you may well be right on that point alone. My main point is that nothing can be taken out of the bidding process in terms of player value. Libba was more highly rated than Wallis.

[Go_Dogs]

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Libba was easily the better player

My post on here after watching them in the U/18 Carnival stated the same.

It's irrelevant really, we got 2 10 year players and I'm stoked with both.

[comrade]

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There was more hype around Wally at the time, based on his 40+ possessions in the TAC Cup GF.

[Twodogs]

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IIRC the club was a little bit concerned that if they took Libba first it may have gone to his head a little. He was a very confident young man.

[ledge]

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Problem is the higher you are in the draft the less money you get paid. So Mitch would have been on more money than Libba in the first two years.
So in effect a father/son pick can be disadvantaged.

[F'scary]

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There was more hype around Wally at the time, based on his 40+ possessions in the TAC Cup GF.

My recollection too is that Wallis was the more touted player in the media. Which is not to say that insiders were not rating Pedro higher than Napoleon.

[LostDoggy]

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My recollection too is that Wallis was the more touted player in the media. Which is not to say that insiders were not rating Pedro higher than Napoleon.

Nice