Time to Upgrade Big Jack

[Bornadog]

43 Jack Redpath
Height 194

Weight 100 kg




We need a bloke that can take a mark, is mobile and kicks goals. Big Jack has kicked 14 at VFL level, time to stick him in the goal square and see how he goes.

Sat 5/Apr	Richmond Tigers	0	0	0	6	0	3	2	4	0	3	3	2	0	0	0
Sun 13/Apr	Williamstown	0	1	1	5	2	0	1	1	1	3	4	4	2	0	0
Sun 20/Apr	Northern Blues	5	2	0	7	5	2	2	2	2	7	9	0	1	0	0
Fri 25/Apr	Bendigo Gold	0	3	1	5	2	5	3	2	3	3	6	0	0	2	0
Sun 4/May	North Ballarat	0	1	0	4	2	2	0	3	1	3	4	4	1	1	0
Sat 10/May	Sandringham	0	4	2	8	2	1	0	1	2	3	5	2	0	1	0
Sat 24/May	Coburg	6	3	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0

[chef]

Re: Time to Upgrade Big Jack

Can't hurt and gives us to check him out before the seasons out

[Webby]

Re: Time to Upgrade Big Jack

Firstly, a question I'd ask is how Cordy's stats compare to Redpath's.

Secondly, just a point that, without a key tall forward target, our guys fatigue. It's a lot less effort to kick long to a target than to have to constantly scrap for goals. Thus our vulnerability to being 'broken' in my opinion.

Thirdly, last year my circle of mates discussed that a trade of pick 4 + Minson for Patton or pick 1 (effectively Boyd) would be the way to go. I posted it on Woof, for the record. Thoughts were that Minson's stocks would never be higher, whilst Cordy is not a forward and Campbell would do well to spend a season developing in the ruck.

Anyway, Redpath's might be okay, but we clearly need to trade and trade aggressively for a key forward. Either that, or throw a big deal at a key forward or go all out at a trade up for pick 1 and get the best tall 18 year old forward in the country.

We have the midfield talent (albeit a bit inside-heavy). The glaring issue for us is a quality tall target. Redpath's could be worth a try. Why not? However the odds of that working out are pretty remote.

I'd rather play the percentages and invest heavily in blue-chip stocks.

[Bornadog]

Re: Time to Upgrade Big Jack

Firstly, a question I'd ask is how Cordy's stats compare to Redpath's.

Secondly, just a point that, without a key tall forward target, our guys fatigue. It's a lot less effort to kick long to a target than to have to constantly scrap for goals. Thus our vulnerability to being 'broken' in my opinion.

Thirdly, last year my circle of mates discussed that a trade of pick 4 + Minson for Patton or pick 1 (effectively Boyd) would be the way to go. I posted it on Woof, for the record. Thoughts were that Minson's stocks would never be higher, whilst Cordy is not a forward and Campbell would do well to spend a season developing in the ruck.

Anyway, Redpath's might be okay, but we clearly need to trade and trade aggressively for a key forward. Either that, or throw a big deal at a key forward or go all out at a trade up for pick 1 and get the best tall 18 year old forward in the country.

We have the midfield talent (albeit a bit inside-heavy). The glaring issue for us is a quality tall target. Redpath's could be worth a try. Why not? However the odds of that working out are pretty remote.

I'd rather play the percentages and invest heavily in blue-chip stocks.

Cordy

Sat 5/Apr	Richmond Tigers	3	5	1	9	1	2	1	3	4	2	6	4	2	2	20
Sun 13/Apr	Williamstown	6	0	1	2	4	2	4	1	3	3	6	7	0	2	33
Sun 20/Apr	Northern Blues	0	0	0	1	3	3	0	1	0	0	0	3	3	1	16
Fri 25/Apr	Bendigo Gold	4	1	1	5	3	5	3	2	1	4	5	7	2	2	56
Sun 4/May	North Ballarat	0	1	0	2	2	3	2	1	0	1	1	0	1	1	25
Sat 10/May	Sandringham	0	1	1	2	3	8	4	3	0	3	3	2	1	1	21
Sat 24/May	Coburg	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0

[Webby]

Re: Time to Upgrade Big Jack

Okay. I actually saw Cordy kick 5 (should've been 7) against Richmond in rd 1, so thought there might be some cheapies available in the VFL. Redpath's numbers seem reasonable of late. McCartney is probably managing him to get his fitness base up prior to throwing him in. That's the biggest step for a guy like him and they might want him to develop defensively. ie growing his tank.

In a perfect world, you'd probably give him another month, but in the circumstances, it might be time.

One positive that might've come out of today (and I'm clutching, here!) is that perhaps Liam Jones might get a little bit more kudos. He's often frustrating, but he does provide a contest and now has a reasonable tank/defensive game. We clearly missed him today. In the circumstances, it mightn't be a bad idea to promote Redpath. He has more chance of making it than at least a couple of on the senior list. Dickson's on the long term injury list, isn't he? The opportunity's there..

[G-Mo77]

Re: Time to Upgrade Big Jack

I don't see any harm in trying him. No Jones next week and his form was ordinary so Jones goes back to the VFL and earn his spot back. Redpath has been good enough so why not.

[always right]

Re: Time to Upgrade Big Jack

Why not? It's not as if there is anything at stake. Would prefer we at least look at him before considering whether he gets delisted.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Time to Upgrade Big Jack

Nothing to lose, Stevens was our key forward today. Probably better to have a 194cm 100 kilo bloke down there

[GVGjr]

Re: Time to Upgrade Big Jack

Why not? It's not as if there is anything at stake. Would prefer we at least look at him before considering whether he gets delisted.

With Jones only a week or so away and Williams close is there an argument that Austin would be the better upgrade?
Redpath looked good yesterday but is he doing enough

[always right]

Re: Time to Upgrade Big Jack

With Jones only a week or so away and Williams close is there an argument that Austin would be the better upgrade?
Redpath looked good yesterday but is he doing enough

Everyone says we need a key position forward. We have one at FOOTSCRAY whose form suggests we should give him a try. Personally I don't think he'll make it, much the same as I feel about Austin. The difference is Austin isn't a forward and he has at least been given some senior game time.

[G-Mo77]

Re: Time to Upgrade Big Jack

With Jones only a week or so away and Williams close is there an argument that Austin would be the better upgrade?
Redpath looked good yesterday but is he doing enough

IMO Austin is a depth defender and that's it. Why not just leave Roberts in the back half and work with him rather than upgrade Austin again?

I like the idea of trying Redpath, he's put the goals on the board in the VFL, we need big target up front, we have an open spot on our list. Makes sense to me.

[GVGjr]

Re: Time to Upgrade Big Jack

IMO Austin is a depth defender and that's it. Why not just leave Roberts in the back half and work with him rather than upgrade Austin again?

I like the idea of trying Redpath, he's put the goals on the board in the VFL, we need big target up front, we have an open spot on our list. Makes sense to me.

I get the logic but I think Jones is worth sticking with and Williams worthy of another shot. We could even try Campbell again. Austin would cover the out of form Talia and I don't think Roberts is quite ready yet.

I'm not fussed either way especially after the beating we took but maybe I just need to see Redpath in action again to be convinced.

[G-Mo77]

Re: Time to Upgrade Big Jack

I get the logic but I think Jones is worth sticking with and Williams worthy of another shot. We could even try Campbell again. Austin would cover the out of form Talia and I don't think Roberts is quite ready yet.

I'm not fussed either way especially after the beating we took but maybe I just need to see Redpath in action again to be convinced.

The way I see it Jones was pretty ordinary before his suspension so Redpath takes his place for a few weeks and Jones has to win it back.

I'd slot Williams straight back into the team. I don't think it's a Williams or Redpath selection, both can fit.

I'd like to give Fletch at least 3 games in a row.

I'm not fussed either. I've never been convinced on Redpath I'd just like to try that avenue so we can either give him a tick or a cross.

[always right]

Re: Time to Upgrade Big Jack

Jones is out for another week so there really isn't anything to lose by playing Redpath. Hell I'm not totally against us playing two big key forwards as in Redpath and Campbell as well as Grant and Crameri. Sure it might mean the ball comes out even quicker but wouldn't it be nice to see how we look with two big blokes crashing packs up forward......just for the sheer sake of it?

[GVGjr]

Re: Time to Upgrade Big Jack

I'd slot Williams straight back into the team. I don't think it's a Williams or Redpath selection, both can fit.

I'd like to give Fletch at least 3 games in a row.

I'm not fussed either. I've never been convinced on Redpath I'd just like to try that avenue so we can either give him a tick or a cross.

Can we add Williams, Redpath and Grant in alongside of Crameri and and maybe Stinger?

I'd like to Stringer, Grant, Crameri and Williams up in attack. Redpath seems one too many for me at the moment.