Time to Upgrade Big Jack

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  • always right
    WOOF Member
    • Nov 2007
    • 4189

    #16
    Re: Time to Upgrade Big Jack

    Personally I don't see a lot merit persevering with Williams but I suspect I am on a different wave length to the MC. We sorta know what he brings to the side when he actually plays whereas we know stuff all about Redpath with good(ish) players around him.
    I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.

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    • G-Mo77
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Apr 2007
      • 9876

      #17
      Re: Time to Upgrade Big Jack

      Originally posted by GVGjr
      Can we add Williams, Redpath and Grant in alongside of Crameri and and maybe Stinger?

      I'd like to Stringer, Grant, Crameri and Williams up in attack. Redpath seems one too many for me at the moment.
      I think so, Grant is more of a small anyway so it works on paper.

      Stringer's been in the back half and looks like he's staying there for now.

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      • The Bulldogs Bite
        Hall of Fame
        • Dec 2006
        • 11244

        #18
        Re: Time to Upgrade Big Jack

        Not convinced on Jones, and even less so on Williams.

        Worth a shot at this point, otherwise what was the point of keeping him on the rookie list for a third year?
        W00F!

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        • azabob
          Hall of Fame
          • Sep 2008
          • 15301

          #19
          Re: Time to Upgrade Big Jack

          Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
          Not convinced on Jones, and even less so on Williams.

          Worth a shot at this point, otherwise what was the point of keeping him on the rookie list for a third year?
          So we need to start again?
          More of an In Bruges guy?

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          • The Bulldogs Bite
            Hall of Fame
            • Dec 2006
            • 11244

            #20
            Re: Time to Upgrade Big Jack

            Originally posted by azabob
            So we need to start again?
            Not sure what you mean.

            My point is that Jones and Williams aren't absolute 'locks' and both have been in the system for quite a while. Both are still very inconsistent in quarters, let alone games. I am yet to be convinced that either has a bright future.

            I'm not sold on Redpath either, but I'm not opposed to giving him games and making Jones or Williams work their way back through the VFL.
            W00F!

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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              #21
              Re: Time to Upgrade Big Jack

              Happy to try, but one game isn't going to be enough for a decision on delistment. Are we happy to give him a run of at least 5-6 senior games? Freo is a tough assignment first-off-the-rank.

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              • G-Mo77
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Apr 2007
                • 9876

                #22
                Re: Time to Upgrade Big Jack

                Originally posted by BornAScragger
                Happy to try, but one game isn't going to be enough for a decision on delistment. Are we happy to give him a run of at least 5-6 senior games? Freo is a tough assignment first-off-the-rank.
                I think we can squeeze at least 3 out of him. Jones was ordinary leading up to his suspension so I think a VFL stint wouldn't hurt.

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                • Mofra
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 14944

                  #23
                  Re: Time to Upgrade Big Jack

                  I don't have the faith others do in Redpath .... but I'd love to see him get the chance to prove me wrong.

                  I assume Dickson at 10 weeks is LTI so we can upgrade Redpath?
                  We're not challenging for a flag and our F50 structure is wrong. Crameri can play the HF line. We may as well find out how Jack goes at AFL level.
                  Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                  • Dancin' Douggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 2876

                    #24
                    Re: Time to Upgrade Big Jack

                    The logic is pretty simple really.
                    He's been re rookied so they must think he's got someyhing to offer.
                    After 3 pre seasons you'd think he'd have at least the minimum fitness level required.
                    We're screaming out for a tall forward target.
                    His form is probably just good enough to give him a crack.
                    Our season is shot.
                    Play him and see. If Fremantle are gonna smack us, they might as well smack us with Redpath in the team.
                    Give him a 5/6 week chunk to see what he's got.

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                    • Nuggety Back Pocket
                      WOOF Member
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 2064

                      #25
                      Re: Time to Upgrade Big Jack

                      Originally posted by GVGjr
                      With Jones only a week or so away and Williams close is there an argument that Austin would be the better upgrade?
                      Redpath looked good yesterday but is he doing enough
                      We could do a lot worse than try Redpath at FF. Our key forwards have been very disappointing both CHF and FF and a big factor in current members dissatisfaction. Our lack of skilled players hasn't helped with continuing poor delivery into the forward line. Campbell Jones Stringer and Crameri have all struggled in the key forward posts and there is little to lose by playing Redpath.

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                      • LostDoggy
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8307

                        #26
                        Re: Time to Upgrade Big Jack

                        Can our members survive giving Redpath a 5-6 week slot? Can our coach? Can Redpath?

                        I don't think as a club we currently have the will power to see it through. Upgrade him for 2, and lets say both are goalless weeks, and he would be gone. Not sure the timing is right/fair. He's only just showing decent VFL form at the moment. If he kicks another 3-5 goals in his next 2 VFL games I think he's starting to prove something.

                        Not yet.

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                        • 1eyedog
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 13234

                          #27
                          Re: Time to Upgrade Big Jack

                          Originally posted by Superdog
                          Can our members survive giving Redpath a 5-6 week slot? Can our coach? Can Redpath?

                          I don't think as a club we currently have the will power to see it through. Upgrade him for 2, and lets say both are goalless weeks, and he would be gone. Not sure the timing is right/fair. He's only just showing decent VFL form at the moment. If he kicks another 3-5 goals in his next 2 VFL games I think he's starting to prove something.

                          Not yet.
                          The MC need to think the same way about Redpath as they did for Stringer earlier this season. If it works there is massive upside if it doesn't well I don't think we've lost out in a big way, on the contrary we will be in a much more informed position on him come decision time at seasons end.
                          But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                          • boydogs
                            WOOF Member
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 5844

                            #28
                            Re: Time to Upgrade Big Jack

                            Originally posted by Superdog
                            Can our members survive giving Redpath a 5-6 week slot? Can our coach? Can Redpath?

                            I don't think as a club we currently have the will power to see it through. Upgrade him for 2, and lets say both are goalless weeks, and he would be gone. Not sure the timing is right/fair. He's only just showing decent VFL form at the moment. If he kicks another 3-5 goals in his next 2 VFL games I think he's starting to prove something.

                            Not yet.
                            The timing is somewhat forced upon us, he can only be upgraded if we put Dickson on the long term injury list, keeping him out for 8 weeks from the time we do it. Redpath doesn't have to be upgraded and promoted instantly after that but if we commit to keeping Tory out for that long regardless of when he is ready to return then we should have someone in mind that we will upgrade in his place
                            If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

                            Formerly gogriff

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                            • Greystache
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 9775

                              #29
                              Re: Time to Upgrade Big Jack

                              Originally posted by gogriff
                              The timing is somewhat forced upon us, he can only be upgraded if we put Dickson on the long term injury list, keeping him out for 8 weeks from the time we do it. Redpath doesn't have to be upgraded and promoted instantly after that but if we commit to keeping Tory out for that long regardless of when he is ready to return then we should have someone in mind that we will upgrade in his place
                              Dickson was put on the LTIL 2 weeks ago.
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                              • azabob
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 15301

                                #30
                                Re: Time to Upgrade Big Jack

                                Originally posted by Greystache
                                Dickson was put on the LTIL 2 weeks ago.
                                Would you play him stache?
                                More of an In Bruges guy?

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