Match Committee - Round 16 vs Geelong

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  • boydogs
    WOOF Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 5844

    #91
    Re: Match Committee - Round 16 vs Geelong

    Originally posted by F'scary
    Surely you are talking about Grant towards the end of his illustrious career? For the major part of it he was quick, agile and had a huge tank.
    I remember him more for his sublime skills off both feet, great hands & strength in a marking contest and goal sense than for running his opponents around all day
    If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

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    • F'scary
      WOOF Member
      • Dec 2011
      • 4089

      #92
      Re: Match Committee - Round 16 vs Geelong

      Originally posted by gogriff
      I remember him more for his sublime skills off both feet, great hands & strength in a marking contest and goal sense than for running his opponents around all day
      Very true but for his first 3 to 5 seasons they couldn't keep up with him either.
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      • The Underdog
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Aug 2007
        • 6871

        #93
        Re: Match Committee - Round 16 vs Geelong

        Originally posted by gogriff
        Chris Grant. Chris was 193cm 99kg, Jack is 194cm 100kg. Both are not known for their mobility but are good marks and have good foot skills. Jack obviously hasn't earned this comparison at this point but I see them as similar types of players
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        • westdog54
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jan 2007
          • 6686

          #94
          Re: Match Committee - Round 16 vs Geelong

          Originally posted by Remi Moses
          Bit harsh on Darley, but I guess it's a nice problem.
          At least we know now that he has shown some value. He'll get more chances.

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          • boydogs
            WOOF Member
            • Apr 2009
            • 5844

            #95
            Re: Match Committee - Round 16 vs Geelong

            Originally posted by The Underdog
            I'll assume we're both taking the piss
            Nope. One for BT's unpopular opinions thread
            If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

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            • bulldogtragic
              The List Manager
              • Jan 2007
              • 34289

              #96
              Re: Match Committee - Round 16 vs Geelong

              Originally posted by gogriff
              Nope. One for BT's unpopular opinions thread
              my memory says I wasn't brave enough to start that thread. I thought it was the gogriff's unpopular opinions thread!
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              • divvydan
                WOOF Member
                • Oct 2009
                • 1502

                #97
                Re: Match Committee - Round 16 vs Geelong

                People expecting Tutt to come straight back in or is he still on the borderline given his season so far?

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                • Mantis
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 15449

                  #98
                  Re: Match Committee - Round 16 vs Geelong

                  Originally posted by divvydan
                  People expecting Tutt to come straight back in or is he still on the borderline given his season so far?
                  I'm not expecting him to play.

                  My bench is Macrae, Stringer, Wallis & Roberts... I think Roberts has to play.

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                  • soupman
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 5113

                    #99
                    Re: Match Committee - Round 16 vs Geelong

                    The bench is obviously going to include Wallis, Stringer and Macrae, so the last spot is out of Roberts, Tutt, Honeychurch and Campbell.

                    If we go tall it'll probably be Roberts, and small you would think Honeychurch, who would be sub.

                    Wouldn't be surprised to see both play, with a late change bringing Roberts into the side. We seem to like doing that.
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                    • westdog54
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 6686

                      Re: Match Committee - Round 16 vs Geelong

                      Originally posted by Mantis
                      I'm not expecting him to play.

                      My bench is Macrae, Stringer, Wallis & Roberts... I think Roberts has to play.
                      When I first read that I disagreed with it, basis being that I thought Honeychurch deserved another game and Roberts might make us too tall and immobile down back but the more I think about it the more I'm thinking you're right. With Blicavs, McIntosh and Hawkins all named up forward that is some very, very tall timber to cover, especially if Blicavs, McIntosh and Simpson all rotate through the ruck at some stage. Minson will get monstered if this happens.

                      Having said that though, does Campbell come in to assist with ruck duties?

                      How do you see the defensive match ups as named?

                      With the team on the park at the moment, I have Roughead going to Hawkins, Austin takes McIntosh/the resting ruck, Morris goes to Blicavs, Murphy to Stevie J, Picken blankets Motlop and Wood looks after Christensen. Does Wood have the strength and smarts to have a crack at Johnson?

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                      • Mantis
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 15449

                        Re: Match Committee - Round 16 vs Geelong

                        Originally posted by westdog54
                        Having said that though, does Campbell come in to assist with ruck duties?
                        No.. I can't see a forwardline containing Campbell/Minson, Redpath & Crameri being mobile enough.

                        I would be using Roberts & Roughy (shoulder pending) to take ruck duties.

                        Originally posted by westdog54

                        How do you see the defensive match ups as named?

                        With the team on the park at the moment, I have Roughead going to Hawkins, Austin takes McIntosh/the resting ruck, Morris goes to Blicavs, Murphy to Stevie J, Picken blankets Motlop and Wood looks after Christensen. Does Wood have the strength and smarts to have a crack at Johnson?
                        Sounds about right, but Stevie J will play probably more midfield than forward, well at least he has been.. I wouldn't mind seeing Wallis run with SJ. Blicavs has been playing back hasn't he?? Higgins will probably play back a bit too.. I wouldn't mind seeing him go to Duncan.

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                        • Ozza
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 6402

                          Re: Match Committee - Round 16 vs Geelong

                          Originally posted by westdog54
                          When I first read that I disagreed with it, basis being that I thought Honeychurch deserved another game and Roberts might make us too tall and immobile down back but the more I think about it the more I'm thinking you're right. With Blicavs, McIntosh and Hawkins all named up forward that is some very, very tall timber to cover, especially if Blicavs, McIntosh and Simpson all rotate through the ruck at some stage. Minson will get monstered if this happens.

                          Having said that though, does Campbell come in to assist with ruck duties?

                          How do you see the defensive match ups as named?

                          With the team on the park at the moment, I have Roughead going to Hawkins, Austin takes McIntosh/the resting ruck, Morris goes to Blicavs, Murphy to Stevie J, Picken blankets Motlop and Wood looks after Christensen. Does Wood have the strength and smarts to have a crack at Johnson?
                          These days Stevie J plays as a genuine midfielder, so I don't expect Wood or Murphy to get him apart from when he does a short stint forward. Wood will end up on whoever plays deepest of the mid/small sized forwards.

                          Will be interesting to see if Bartel plays forward or back. And same with Harry Taylor. Would not be surprised if Blicavs played back, and Taylor forward.

                          They have Guthrie named half back - but he will play mid and tag Griffen or Libba.

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                          • The Underdog
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 6871

                            Re: Match Committee - Round 16 vs Geelong

                            Originally posted by gogriff
                            Nope. One for BT's unpopular opinions thread
                            I don't think Redpath will ever be as flexible as Grant was. Granty could play nearly any position on the ground but he was a special and sublime talent. I can't see Redpath ever being much of a success anywhere other than key forward. For context, by the time Grant was Redpath's age, he'd played 100+ games and kicked 250+ goals. I'd be amazed if Redpath reaches those in his career but as I've said, I'd be happy to be wrong. Good luck to him on Sunday, hopefully he can contribute.
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                            • Mofra
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                              • Dec 2006
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                              Re: Match Committee - Round 16 vs Geelong

                              Originally posted by Mantis
                              No.. I can't see a forwardline containing Campbell/Minson, Redpath & Crameri being mobile enough.
                              Crameri is one of the best runners at the club.
                              Redpath, for all his shortcomings, isn't slow either.
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                              • Ozza
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 6402

                                Re: Match Committee - Round 16 vs Geelong

                                Originally posted by Mofra
                                Crameri is one of the best runners at the club.
                                Redpath, for all his shortcomings, isn't slow either.
                                I think Mantis might be talking more about agility (in terms of mobility) rather than straight line running - from a defensive aspect, or a 'well then ball hits the ground' perspective - Redpath/Crameri/Stringer/Minson or Campbell - is a bit on the clunky side.

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